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Bye Bye, Columbus Day
Pajamas Media ^ | April 22 | Travis Rowley

Posted on 04/22/2009 9:48:31 AM PDT by AJKauf

Several weeks ago the Brown University faculty ratified a student petition demanding that the university abandon its recognition of Columbus Day. The directive was enacted by Brown’s Native American student group, whose spokesmen defend their activism by pointing out the atrocities committed by Christopher Columbus and his men upon the indigenous people of the newly discovered continent. Some have suggested that the holiday be renamed Indigenous Day, but for now Brown has decided to settle for Fall Weekend — a weekend in which Brown students and professors will still enjoy a Monday off from work.

Now that Brown University has set new moral standards for preserving traditional namesakes, some are wondering if Brown students will petition to scratch the name of a slave-trading family from the face of their university.

Or will they look into the misdeeds of Martin Luther King Jr. in an attempt to save the nation from commemorating anyone who may have blemishes on his moral record? Will there now be an academic investigation into the countless atrocities committed by Native Americans, prompting the removal of tribal names from casinos and other landmarks?

Probably not. But nobody expects consistency from liberals anymore anyway....

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To: AuntB

I can’t remember what indian tribe had the first wheel?


21 posted on 04/22/2009 10:18:45 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: AJKauf
Several weeks ago the Brown University faculty ratified a student petition demanding that the university abandon its recognition of Columbus Day. The directive was enacted by Brown’s Native American student group, whose spokesmen defend their activism by pointing out the atrocities committed by Christopher Columbus and his men upon the indigenous people of the newly discovered continent.

Another scalp for the lodgepole of political grievancy....

22 posted on 04/22/2009 10:20:53 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Radl
That Portuguese Sephardic Jew was from the Lost Tribe of Israel who according to the late Dr. Eugene Scott arrived in the Americas long before any Europeans...
23 posted on 04/22/2009 10:21:52 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

"Happy Leif Erickson Day!"

24 posted on 04/22/2009 10:22:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Vaduz
I can’t remember what indian tribe had the first wheel?

The Mayans sure didn't and look how people are spooked by their 2012 predictions of apocalypse.

25 posted on 04/22/2009 10:23:02 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“You might rethink that a little...”

Cherry picking. You’ve fallen for the romanticized view of the “Noble Savage”.

Under that lifestyle, I’d have 2 children not 3, the first would have died with the cord around his neck. The medicine man wasn’t well know for technical skills.

Apply this same debate to muslims. Your view of Indians is much like the left’s view of any culture. All cultures are equal, with different strengths and weaknesses. So, we should tolerate muslims, because they do have their good points, right?

Nope, muslims are inferior. They’ve proven it over and over, and at best, should be confined to their own Middle East countries.

I thought about it. The more advanced culture won.


26 posted on 04/22/2009 10:23:57 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: Vaduz

“I can’t remember what indian tribe had the first wheel?”

I do not dispute that the tribes originally were ‘primative’.
So were your ancestors, who ever they were. How far back to you want to go? We’ve got cultures coming to this country today who came from places where the wheel isn’t of value today.

IOW, I can’t give you a logical answer to a nonsensical question.

I’ll let one of the ‘savages’ give you his answer, c. 1830.

Elias Boudinot,(aka Buck OOwatee) as Editor of The Cherokee Phoenix, which was published both in English and Cherokee and read in the East and Europe, captured the Cherokee situation in just a few words.
“Perhaps Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were only tantalizing us when they encouraged us in the pursuit of agriculture and government. Why were we not told long ago that we could not be permitted to establish a government within the limits of any state? The Cherokees have always had a government of their own. Nothing, however, was said when we were governed by savage laws. Others say it is time for the Cherokees to submit to inevitable destiny.
What Destiny? To be slandered and then butchered? Yes, this is the bitter cup prepared for us by a republican and religious government. We shall drink it to the dregs.”


27 posted on 04/22/2009 10:25:55 AM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: brownsfan
My view of Indians is certainly different from yours.

After all, I married one.

The Medicine Man would have been as useful as the average priest. What you would want would be the Medicine Woman, a healer, not someone to commune with the spirits. Of course the latter did not have as much work after my wife's people converted to Christianity over 200 years ago, but that did not stop the theft of 10 million acres of land from their people.

So please spare me your diatribe.

As if the children of immigrants from Europe did not die in childbirth.

It wasn't until the last century women stopped dying because they were too embarassed to show where they hurt (ovarian/cervical tumors) even though the ability was there to remove them before they bacame lethal.

You’ve fallen for the romanticized view of the “Noble Savage”.

ROTFLMAO!

Sheesh! Mind catching up a little? This is the 2st century.

And leave the Muslims out of it. Different culture and your bringing them up in the discussion just shows you are trying to demonize one group with the acts of another which insists on remainig far more primitive.

28 posted on 04/22/2009 11:22:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: AJKauf
Some have suggested that the holiday be renamed Indigenous Day

It would be more appropriate to call it "Indignant Day," and then it could be a catch-all holiday for liberals.

29 posted on 04/22/2009 11:24:30 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: brownsfan

***The US government has implemented a form of socialism on the Indians that has left many of them in a stupor of poverty and addiction.****

So why is it that so many Indians who don’t live on reservations have a problem with poverty and addiction? Why is it some other Indians are rich.

I used to shoe horses around Tulsa, Ok many years ago. We would go out to a fancy ranch and some old Indian cowboy man would greet us and show us the horses to shoe. We were surprised this old Indian cowboy was the Owner of the ranch!


30 posted on 04/22/2009 11:24:57 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Vaduz
I can’t remember what indian tribe had the first wheel?

If you were familliar with the terrain of the plains, you'd know the travois was actually better adapted for freight than the wheel, especially over open terrain. The wheel requires roads, limits travel, and is higher maintenance. Hardly an improvement, especially in mud or snow.

31 posted on 04/22/2009 11:27:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: AuntB

I do not dispute that the tribes originally were ‘primative’.
So were your ancestors. However they moved up and other people refused to do so see middle east for the last 1000 years.


32 posted on 04/22/2009 11:31:52 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: dennisw

2012 predictions = dice roll


33 posted on 04/22/2009 11:33:06 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: AJKauf

So when we completely destroy America...then what?

Screw everyone of these egalitarian proponents. This will never stop and we will all NEVER be equal.

Sic semper tyrannis


34 posted on 04/22/2009 11:34:07 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Smokin' Joe

“My view of Indians is certainly different from yours.

After all, I married one.”

Don’t confuse culture with individuals. I see all people as having great potential. I don’t for a second believe individual Indians are inferior to caucasians or blacks or any other grouping.

But, we’ll have to disagree. I see the Indian culture as a flawed, inferior culture that was overrun.

The Indians lost.


35 posted on 04/22/2009 11:34:51 AM PDT by brownsfan (Kool aid comes in two new flavors: Hope and Change.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Wonder if the Roman’s knew that.


36 posted on 04/22/2009 11:37:07 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think they ate their neighbors also. At least the ones that lived in this area did.


37 posted on 04/22/2009 11:42:44 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: Dixie Yooper

That Portuguese Sephardic Jew was from the Lost Tribe of Israel who according to the late Dr. Eugene Scott arrived in the Americas long before any Europeans...

I dont know who Dr. Scott is but according to Doctor Figueredo when they came ashore the Sephardic Jews were offered Portuguese Chorizu and Portuguese Kale soup.


38 posted on 04/22/2009 11:48:06 AM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: Vaduz
Not many Romans in this area, and they had all those slaves to chip rocks to build roads with.

Now, which tribe had the first kickbacks on a highway project?

39 posted on 04/22/2009 11:58:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Radl

Must have made for fewer neighbors. Not like that Dahmer guy who ate Oriental food.


40 posted on 04/22/2009 12:00:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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