[Liberty Tree Surgeon]

You do realize the southern States faile because the northern States could out produce them and outnumbered them, right? Whereas now, the more leftist States are losing manufacturing and productive population to those same southern States, and the military is most likely to be sympathetic with those who find the Feds to be overstepping their bounds. You cannot compare the two times in that regard. Further, whereas those in 1860-1864 could fight for the Union and claim (with accuracy) that doing so was to advance the cause of Liberty for those enslaved in the Confederacy, those who would fight to preserve the Union today would be fighting to achieve the exact opposite, in that they would be fighting to preserve a society lurching toward despotism and part-time slavery to the Feds. Bottom line question to you personally: would you pick up a gun to preserve Obama's vision of America, if he succeeds in implementing it?

[Star Traveler]

So, I hope you’re supporting the Republic of Lakotah in seceding from the United States. It’s been an on-going thing that they’ve been trying to work through and have not managed it yet.

It’s something that all FReepers should support, in the same way that we would support any other state in seceding. This will provide a “modern-day precedent” for all other states, by helping the Lakotah get their sovereign nation status back again.

[manc]

a little pedantic I know but it was 61 to 65