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Jackie Chan 'control' comments criticised in China (blatant flattery not appreciated)
AFP ^ | 04/20/09

Posted on 04/20/2009 11:25:07 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Jackie Chan 'control' comments criticised in China

Mon Apr 20, 10:43 am ET

BEIJING, April 20, 2009 (AFP) – Comments made by Hong Kong movie star Jackie Chan that Chinese people "need to be controlled," drew criticism in China's press as it belatedly reported his views on Monday.

Chan, best-known for his martial-arts comedies, told an annual meeting of governments and business leaders on Saturday that China should be wary of allowing too many freedoms.

"I don't know whether it is better to have freedom or to have no freedom," numerous mainland news websites quoted Chan as saying at the Boao Forum for Asia.

"With too much freedom ... it can get very chaotic, could end up like in Hong Kong or like in Taiwan... I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled."

The remarks drew wide comment in the state media, with commentaries criticising Chan for a lack of knowledge of China's current situation.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: backlash; china; freedom; jackiechan
The guy was seduced and coopted by Chicom to become their PR agent. Apparently, such a royal treatment make him go way over his head and his comment is now embarrassing his masters in Beijing, while the regime is launching its own human right initiative(yes, it is a fake, but they are trying anyway, then this guy came along and ruined the whole thing.)

I raised the issue of Jackie's pro-Chicom behaviors before Beijing Olympics, and some diehard Jackie fan at FR got irate. However, Jackie now managed to confirm it in such a clear-cut manner that I expect no more angry response on this issue.

1 posted on 04/20/2009 11:25:08 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/20/2009 11:25:37 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Apparently, some angry Chinese Internet users suggested that they should send him to N. Korea, according to some S. Korean news reports.


3 posted on 04/20/2009 11:27:17 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m not the die hard Jackie fan, but I love his work.
Pity he went the way he did politically.


4 posted on 04/20/2009 11:27:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"I don't know whether it is better to have freedom or to have no freedom,"

This is a shame, as I enjoy his movies. His statement, however, is easily answered. Simply place Jackie in an 8'x6' cell and see if he prefers the cell to his lifestyle outside of prison. If he's happier in the cell, leave him there. Case closed.

5 posted on 04/20/2009 11:30:23 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: netmilsmom
Most rich entertainers really don't like the masses.Many rich people don't like the idea of universal freedom.I believe they long for a feudal society,always presuming they will be the ones in charge.
6 posted on 04/20/2009 11:31:55 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: econjack

To clarify, he means that OTHER PEOPLE’S freedoms should be curtailed. He doesn’t mean his freedoms.


7 posted on 04/20/2009 11:33:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: hoosierham

Of course they do, stupidly they do not realize that since they don’t have the brain to actually innovate and survive in a world that requires the use of their brains, not feelings.

“Most rich entertainers really don’t like the masses.”

They like to forget their origins.


8 posted on 04/20/2009 11:34:46 AM PDT by Niuhuru
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"With too much freedom ... it can get very chaotic, could end up like in Hong Kong or like in Taiwan... I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled."

Am I the only one who suspects that Mr. Chan was attempting to engage in some tongue-in-cheek sarcasm?

9 posted on 04/20/2009 11:36:42 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: netmilsmom
I’m not the die hard Jackie fan, but I love his work. Pity he went the way he did politically.

There is a particular gene that switches the brain on or off in a unique way. In the off position, one is uninhibited and will act out the most amusing and interesting skits, In the off position, it also cuts off any logic in the circuitry. These are the A Grade actors. All actors who could think were at best B Grade.

10 posted on 04/20/2009 11:36:49 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I met many Chinese in the mainland, including some who had studied in the US, who basically said the same thing as Jackie Chan. And they always seem to cite Sun Yat-Sen about how the Chinese masses are like a pile of loose sand. I always responded, citing Chairman Mao, that a journey of ten thousand miles starts with a single step, so that if they got started, I’m sure the Chinese people could get used to working within a framework of democracy and human rights, as other Confucian background societies like Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, etc. have been doing.


11 posted on 04/20/2009 11:37:53 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: hoosierham
Most rich entertainers really don't like the masses.

Neither do politicians.

12 posted on 04/20/2009 11:43:00 AM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
It is true that such an attitude prevails among Chinese elites. However, it should not be said in an official public venue. This is an embarrassment even if they agree with him privately.
It officially brand Chinese as second-class human beings. That is a blow to their pride and ego. That is mostly the point of uproar in China. Not that they really disagree with him.
13 posted on 04/20/2009 11:43:31 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I think a truly republican (not democratic, communist, or fascist) or libertarian Chinese Republic would be the greatest force for good this world has ever seen...


14 posted on 04/20/2009 11:43:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I suspect this will endure him to the Hollywood elite( that’s what they think of us)but I won’t be going to any more of his movies. Although I admit I very rarely go to anything but dollar movies any way. In the Hollywood world one is smarter playing the role than actually doing anything.


15 posted on 04/20/2009 11:45:53 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I find myself wondering if Chan actually meant what he said or was purposely saying something naive to make the opposite point. It’s a pretty cleary way to illustrate the problem of liberty in China without actually criticizing it.


16 posted on 04/20/2009 12:02:42 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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Jackie’s martial arts skill is excellent, but I don’t think he is all that politically savvy. In his own way, he tried to defend China.


17 posted on 04/20/2009 12:06:42 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: Question_Assumptions

“I find myself wondering if Chan actually meant what he said or was purposely saying something naive to make the opposite point...”

I too find myself wanting to make excuses for Jackie Chan, because he seems like such a great guy, and is such an enormous talent in martial arts physical comedy. I simply can’t help but still like him, even though what he said was simply atrocious. If he did mean what he said, I’m hoping he will rethink his position; I would guess that he’s just going with the flow because he does a lot of work in China, and hasn’t thought about this very deeply.


18 posted on 04/20/2009 12:40:09 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: TigerLikesRooster

LOL...after living here on Taiwan for 5 years I’d say there is more than a grain of truth in his comment.

...;)


19 posted on 04/20/2009 8:52:15 PM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I wonder Jackie if realizes that all his many millions of dollars have come from making movies in DEMOCRATIC places.

What a pity...


20 posted on 04/21/2009 7:04:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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