Posted on 04/20/2009 7:53:50 AM PDT by BGHater
Being forced, on pain of punishment, to do anything at all under such circumstances has opened a crack through which all manner of abuse has found a way into our legal system.
"Asset forfeiture" was one such proposal. After all, who could argue with taking property away from those who gained from criminal action. That held water until the first few cases where that bar was lowered to a point where folks buying cars/houses with cash down payments were getting rolled by law enforcement.
Law Enforcement is no longer our Friend. The game is to find something to pin on your target, it isn't about mere "enforcement" any more. No need to make it easier for them to turn nothing into something.
I understand your concerns. We disagree on this point; but I do understand where you come from.
Law Enforcement is no longer our Friend.
I am sorry you feel this way, but this is also something I can understand. I do not have that feeling in the community where I live.
Why should WE have to show ID, if Obama doesn’t even have to show a Birth Certificate???
This was re-iterated and illustrated by the retired officer that taught my Carry Permit course. My Father is former LEO as well and has said similar things although times were a bit different when he was still patrolling our County.
I haven't heard anything bad about our local LEO's. In jurisdictions around ours, there are some trouble spots. Nor have I ever had a bad run in with an officer. I have exactly on speeding ticket on my record and that was a fair stop by a Travis County Deputy. The officer at the time was very courteous and professional.
However, politics being what they are, the times being what they are, ANY expansion of the Laws power should be looked at with a VERY careful eye. Things like this can and are very easily twisted from their original purpose.
How is it that Dan Patrick is claimed to sponsor this bill, but at the Texas Senate Website, he has sponsored or Co-sponsored NO bills?
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/reports/report.aspx?LegSess=81R&ID=cosponsor&Code=A1430
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/reports/report.aspx?LegSess=81R&ID=sponsor&Code=A1430
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/Members/MemberInfo.aspx?Leg=81&Chamber=S&Code=A1430
Dunno. I simply posted the article.
If your talking about Gov’t updating a website with Senate information your gonna always have problems.
I would also like to see a birth cert for Hussein
I see the problem.
He is not a sponsor, he is the author of the darn bill.
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=81R&Bill=SB01175
>Doesn’t the 5th amendment give every person the right to remain silent?
Only after you are in custody and/or charged with a crime.
Until that they can demand some id.
BTTT
See, there is the trouble. Citizens. I believe the bill has good intentions and is trying to target illegals, but it’s missing the point. There does need to be something in regards to illegals. It’s called deportation. There is already legislation for it, go figure.
Have you been waiting all day to say “straw man”?
If so find out the meaning first. I made an analogy.
I can just see someone presenting a hand scribbled note saying:
"This is my son. I have identified him.
Signed,
His mother"
This is looking to change that. Saying nothing, having nothing to hide, will now be a crime.
You sure that's where you want to take this Country?
Very good question.
Without a doubt.
Found the answer, he is the author, not sponsor.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2233397/posts?page=89#89
But if I understand this correctly, it would only be an offense to fail to provide Name, residence and date of birth AFTER arrested or detained.
The fight over illegals continues to threaten our freedom.
Why not pass a National My Name Is tag law?
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