Posted on 04/20/2009 5:15:14 AM PDT by Tolik
One wonders whether President Obama, for all the soaring rhetoric, grasps why certain nations really do hate us. Does he think a Grozny, Darfur, Rwanda, Serbia, or Tibet happen in reaction to US global sinful conduct? Does he appreciate why hot spots like Cyprus, Taiwan, or Georgia, do not boil overor under what conditions they might? Does he really believe that in the pre-Bush era we all got long (cf. his al-Arabiya interview); then Bushs strutting, unilateralism, and preemption, presto, caused anti-Americanism?
Take Iran. It wants to be the preeminent regional power in the Middle East, and win for the Persian Shiites the mantle of Islamic frontline leadership in the long war to destroy Israel. That requires oil revenue, sponsorship of terror, and nuclear weaponry.
Despite Bill Clintons past ramblings, it is not democratic; instead, prescreened, preapproved candidates are confirmed by plebiscites, and civil liberties are nonexistent as we know them. The history of Khomeinism is one of executing thousands of Shah-supporters, sending tens of thousands to their deaths in mass wave attacks in Iraq, and using surrogate Hezbollah and Shiite operatives to blow up Americans from Lebanon to Iraq. In other words, a democratic internationalist America stands in the way of their megalomaniac aspirations.
After the Carter humiliations, the Reagan disaster with Iran-Contra, the Clinton feeble attempts at appeasement, Americans gave up on the Khomeinists, and more or less hoped to distinguish the Iranian people from their theocracy, talk up democratic change, and contain the mullahs terrorist aspirations. We can do this adroitly or clumsily, but existential differences will remain nonethelessuntil a change in ideology on their or our part. Either they reenter the family of nations, or we redefine the family of nations to include thugocracies.
And now? What is there to negotiate over? How soon they can have the bomb? Triangulation with them over Israel? Promises to quit sending shaped charges into Iraq to kill more Americans?
Why does Hugo Chavez hate us? Is it because Bushs dead or aliveed him or with us or against used him? Hardly. Chavez wants to end democracy in Venezuela for good, turn it into a Cuba-like communist dictatorship, use his oil revenues to whip up liberationist, anti-Yanqui feelings throughout South America, and end up with himself as some sort of messianic caudillo of the entire socialist continent. Sound crazy?
No more crazy than the daily Chavez communiqués. Again, by good or bad diplomacy we can soothe or excite himbut otherwise his aims are antithetical to the notion of democratic, capitalist states, with close ties to the North American democracies.
We can ditto all this with North Korea, Cuba, Russia, Syria, etc. So far all the Obama apologies for the sins of his own country (note always before he came on the scene), the serial Bush did it invective, the promises of a brave new Obama transnational world, the evocation of his middle name, and non-traditional lineage, and shared demagoguery against them (Wall Street, the greedy, the unpatriotic who make over the mythical trip wire $250,000), have not, and will not, change much abroad. Has Cuba promised to release prisoners, or apologized for all those killed? Has Chavez vowed to restore constitutional governance and quit subversion of his neighbors?
Elsewhere did the their old America did it, not my new one Obama approach win his country anything? Russians helping out to prevent a nuclear Iran, or stopping the killing of dissidents abroad, or promises not to bully the former Soviet republics? More European combat units going to Afghanistan? Mexico vowing to curb illegal immigration? Turkey ceasing its new anti-Western Islamic screeds?
His supporters would rejoin, Oh, but give him time. Hes sowing the field with good will for a bountiful harvest of future cooperation. I do think hes sowing, but a minefield rather than a crop, whose explosions will be as inevitable as they will be numerous. Sarkozys crude dismissal and appraisal of Obama (nothing is worse for a liberal administration than to have their idolized French brethren bite their extended limp hands) are the templates of things to come.
My only confusion is over motive. Does Obama do this for
(a) domestic political purposes: trashing Bush abroad*, coupled with fawning foreign crowds and photo-ops, reminds Americans that someone made them liked abroad after someone else did not?
(b) Is it more personal, as in messianic: he sees himself as a sort of Mandela/Gandhi figure, post-national, post-patriotic, post-American in whom the souls of 6 billion are invested for hope and change?
(c) Is there a touch of Democratic savvy as wellthe more these breakthroughs are associated with Obama, the more Hillary seems sidelined, and / or forced to implement his lead? Compared to the high Rice profile, her stature seems more and more dwarfish.
(d) Does he really believe in conflict resolution theory that postulates escalating disagreements arise from miscommunication and misunderstanding rather than far more often an aggressive party sensing that its putative opponent cannot or will not impede itin other words faith in the UN rather than age-old balance of power, deterrence, and quiet but carry a big stick preparedness?
(e) Does Obama, whether being nourished on the mother milk of Wright, Ayers, Khalidi, etc, or from his university training and Chicago organizing, really see the U.S. as historically a uniquely oppressive society in terms of race, class, and gender, and hence perhaps have empathy for a Castro or Chavez, at least more than he does for Americans of the sort who go to tea parties and listen to Fox News?
Ill let readers decide, but so far his rhetoric has been harsher to those on Wall Street, his opponents in Congress, those who make over $250,000, and those who criticize him than it has to those who clearly dont like us abroad.
And the result will be soon, as Sarkozy presciently saw, a general sizing up of the Obama two-step. They will either believe that we are weak, and cannot stand in the way of their illiberal agendas, or believe that Obama is somewhat sympathetic to their anti-capitalist, anti-democratic scenarios, or believe that he is a true multiculturalist who believes in the Post-American world.
* Cf. the latest same old/same old (From the CNN story of the Presidents Trip to Latin America):
(A) Obama sought to distance his administration from that of his predecessor, noting that he plans to close the detention center at Guantanamo, where some of the practices of enhanced interrogation techniques, I think, ran counter to American values and American traditions.
With the inevitable (B):
But he did not dwell on his predecessors legacy. Im a strong believer that it is important to look forward and not backward
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No, but he does know that he can feed that lie now existing in the majority of the world....including here at home.
"Is it more personal, as in messianic: he sees himself as a sort of Mandela/Gandhi figure, post-national, post-patriotic, post-American in whom the souls of 6 billion are invested for hope and change?"
Yes. The global messiah thing with aspirations for the UN, essentially a Third World anti-colonialist leader of a secular Liberation theology movement based on class conflict and race.
When he spoke at Georgetown and had all references of Jesus Christ covered up before hand was telling.
He didn't want the competition.
I vote for (e).
Obama’s orientation is basically antithetical to traditional American values. He envies the power and control of Chavez, Castro, Kim Il Jung, etc.
maica: “He envies the power and control of Chavez, Castro, Kim Il Jung, etc.”
Not so sure that’s the case. I’d guess his real goal isn’t power so much as pursuit of a socialist ideology. Power is only a necessary means to an end. He only wants to help us (and if that thought doesn’t send shivers down your spine, nothing will). He’s a true believer IMHO.
I think he is still trying to purge himself of his mother’s white blood by attacking America. Ever since I read his book, I’ve thought he was the most psychologically screwed up person ever nominated by a major party.
He apologizes everywhere for anything because he needs to rid himself of his screwed up Mom - and he associates America with her.
He only wants to help us...
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I have never seen evidence that he has feelings for anyone, nevermind the great unwashed. He can act warmly with his wife and children, but his core is cold as ice.
Where are his lifelong friends standing beside him in his new position? Where are the testimonies of what a great guy he is from people other than ACORN agents?
His narcissism is pathological, but apparently not a handicap to reaching the Oval Office, given the total denial of the press corps
He learned his anti-American values from his mother.
I agree. However, I think he also hates his mother, and is trying desperately to disassociate himself from her - and he does that by being anti-white & anti-American.
I think she taught him to hate the white, capitalistic world, without realizing that she was white - no matter how long she lived in Indonesia. I think he came to hate her, his grandparents, and anything associated with them.
And that includes America.
“e) Does Obama, whether being nourished on the mother milk of Wright, Ayers, Khalidi, etc, or from his university training and Chicago organizing, really see the U.S. as historically a uniquely oppressive society in terms of race, class, and gender, and hence perhaps have empathy for a Castro or Chavez, at least more than he does for Americans of the sort who go to tea parties and listen to Fox News?”
Bingo!
thanks for the ping.
One Tour Too Many [Victor Davis Hanson]
I dont know whether this was the intent or not, but Obamas weird trip to Latin America characterized by constant anti-American outbursts from heads of state eager to blame their own failures on Yankee's probably killed any notion that any sane American would support either further free-trade agreements or "comprehensive immigration reform" with a continent that seems to blame all of its self-inflicted troubles on what the United States supposedly did last century.
What is strange about the now well-known Obama three-step visits (apologize, then trash Bush, then nod that America was bad before he came along), is that they seem to incite more anti-American choruses rather than fewer, incur more bad will than good, and end with not a single accomplishment, much less concession. (Ortega et al, as the bullies they are, seemed madder at Obama that he was letting up on Cuba than they were with Bush, who wouldn't). Does Obama think that the American people really want to hear their country ritually trashed from those anti-democrats who are, at the same time, jostling to keep our borders open to ensure more dollar remittances and more sanctuary for their own fleeing citizens?
These Victory Column-like foreign campaign stops are now getting stale, and at some point I think Emanuel and Axelrod will see that these magical mystery tours have the potential, in their scripted regularity, to really turn off the American people and convince bad players abroad that it is about time to test the waters.
(Ortega et al, as the bullies they are, seemed madder at Obama that he was letting up on Cuba than they were with Bush, who wouldn’t).
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All any observer needs to do is compare the reaction of Code Pinko leftists and the Democratic Socialist Congressional Caucus to Obama’s ACTIONS, with how the bullies south of us also react to him. The similarities are glaringly obvious, - except to our ‘national’ news media.
They can NEVER be satisfied. Every concession brings on more demands for concessions. Forever!!!
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