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To: macebowman
"...And yeah—Lincoln was an ass. One of the first “white shoed” lawyers, he may have split some rails on the farm as a child, but as an adult he represented the rich and the powerful,..."
 
Interesting post, I really appreciated all of it.
 
I sort of stumbled over your rant at the Signer of the Emancipation Proclamation being representative of powerful interests because it seemed ludicrous at once. But I thought about it for another moment.
 
The notion that Lincoln represented the rich and the powerful might seem counter intuitive at first, but when I think about the current state of affairs in our "Union" I can grasp the concept. I really can. The Plantation state has enveloped our culture to a degree that far exceeds what economic influence slavery ever did back in the day.
 
You do seem rather angry, and It appears that I struck a nerve.  Tough titty.
 
I also have lived and worked the large part of my life under the shadow of the Blue Hills. Prowse Farm lies at the foot of the highest point in North America within 14 miles of the Atlantic Ocean. The Colonists sent signal fires at the summit of "Big Blue" during the occupation of Boston by British forces to convey messages concerning strategies. 
 
About a mile away just down the hill over in Readville four score and 4 or 5 (or 6) years after the Revolution the Massachusetts 54th Regiment  (Black) trained  for their mark in History. You have heard of Robert Gould Shaw. You know the fellow who was the commanding Officer of those uppity blacks who dared to challenge the white devil slave masters from Turkey Creek and elsewhere?
 
I am sure that Turkey Creek is a fine place to raise a family and for pompous asses to pontificate about how great things sure were when the rich and powerful did not interfere with states rights and personal property  which included human beings being treated as nothing more than cattle. Go on Bro, keep telling us about the great old days.

381 posted on 04/20/2009 11:10:12 AM PDT by Radix (We seek Liberty......They give us Debt.)
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To: Radix

The notion that Lincoln represented the rich and the powerful might seem counter intuitive at first, but when I think about the current state of affairs in our “Union” I can grasp the concept. I really can.

The similarities are profound.

The story goes that it was in a hotel in Illinois during a political convention at the state level. Lincoln was intelligent. He had proven his allegiance, at one point actually jumping out of the window of the Illinois legislature to avoid a quorum before a vote removing the railroad subsidies that were bankrupting the state.

And Lincoln was a presence. First, Lincoln, at six foot four, is still our tallest president. But it was his voice that bought him distinction. A high, squeaky—fingernails on chalkboard voice. The famous Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincoln LOST both the debates AND the election, but no one could stop talking about that ungodly voice and ugliness so profound that you couldn’t stop looking at it. That, compounded with his self depreciation humour endeared him to the population. The population of a small slice of America but one also large enough to carve out enough votes for victory. See, Lincoln wasn’t even on the ballot here in North Carolina. Nope, Lincoln rode the Northern Railroads, and his county fair sideshow act captivated the public. Sound familar? Obama make many trips to Georgia?

And the War itself—well show me the money. At least half a dozen of our current “multi-national conglomerates” got their start with military contracts for tainted food and uniforms that melted in the rain. And Reconstruction, well it was an orchestrated effort to enslave the population. Again, in North Carolina—well farms where destroyed or left abandoned and homes had been torched, property taxes TRIPLED after the Yankees took over. Sound familar?

But anyways, the story goes that in that hotel room some Northern industrialist in allegiance with the European aristocracy cut a deal with the young state representative Lincoln. They give him the presidency he gives them back the “colony” that the European aristocracy had lost some 80 years earlier. Kind of like a young State senator giving a speech at a political convention after cutting his own deal with the European aristocracy and American uberrich.


387 posted on 04/20/2009 12:15:24 PM PDT by macebowman
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