Petronski: "I did not..."
Posted on 04/14/2009 6:12:09 AM PDT by NYer
CALIFORNIA AVE. — Santa Monica Police are investigating an alleged hate crime after officials with St. Monica Catholic Church discovered a statue of the Virgin Mary beheaded shortly before Easter services commenced.
A priest found the 55-year-old marble statue, which stands on the corner of Seventh Street and California Avenue, decapitated around 5:45 a.m. on Sunday, spotting the head on the ground just a few feet away. The top of the statue was covered with a white plastic bag before service began.
“Even though it was a sad event, it didn’t take away from the joy of Easter and celebrating Christ’s resurrection,” Jason Farmer, the church spokesman, said. “The joy was still sustained and celebrated throughout the day.”
Police have not identified any suspects.
“Anytime a church or school is targeted, we look at it as a possible hate crime,” SMPD Lt. Darrell Lowe said. “In this case, since the vandalism was of a very important figure within the Catholic religion, we’re classifying it and investigating it as a hate crime.”
Authorities said they are not sure how the head was removed, but Farmer said that the top is not detachable.
The statue, which stands at about 5.5 feet tall and is mounted on a 3.5-foot-tall pedestal, was dedicated in 1954 in memory of Monsignor N. Conneally, who was the head of the church from 1923-1949.
The statue was vandalized in 2002 when both hands were taken off. The perpetrator was never caught, Farmer said.
The statue will be repaired and restored, Farmer said. A cost estimate was not available at presstime.
“The church considers it to be sad and there are certainly questions about why this was done,” Farmer said. “But our sadness is brief, especially in the celebration of Easter.
He said the church considers the incident as a challenge to be more welcoming and caring to those who are struggling or hurting in the community.
“What has happened to the statue is an invitation for us to live out a deeper, more profound love for others,” he said.
Anyone with information is urged to contacted the SMPD at (310) 458-8419.
melodyh@smdp.com
And did not Mary agree to God’s will?
“Let it be done unto me according to thy Word..”
“Do whatever He tells you...”
Yeah - I would say she definitely falls into that category :)
Oh wow. Nice, real nice.
I responded to a post before I saw this disgusting pic.
How nice to bring something so awful into a religious discussion.
Adios WVKayaker.
Isn’t that special?
“Have you ever met the ones who say Mary was just a vessel?
It’s creepy.”
Yes I have - and yes it is.
Like she was some brain dead weirdo who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Jesus. Nothing at all!
They even like to portray Jesus as the kind of Son who just didn’t like His mother very much. Kind of odd considering He created her in the first place.
Bye! I'll let Jesus speak!
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Jesus, the rock!
Luke 8: 4While a large crowd was gathering and people were coming to Jesus from town after town, he told this parable:
5"A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path; it was trampled on, and the birds of the air ate it up. 6Some fell on rock, and when it came up, the plants withered because they had no moisture. 7Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up with it and choked the plants. 8Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up and yielded a crop, a hundred times more than was sown."
When he said this, he called out, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
9His disciples asked him what this parable meant.
10He said, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to others I speak in parables, so that,
" 'though seeing, they may not see;
though hearing, they may not understand.'[a]
11"This is the meaning of the parable: The seed is the word of God. 12Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. 13Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.
14The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life's worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature. 15But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop. -NIV
That makes no sense.
You keep insinuating I have posted personal attacks on you. SHOW ME.
Quote me. Provide the link.
He created Adam and Eve. Where does the Scripture say that Mary is a created being? What did Jesus say about His mother's role? (see my #108, and get back to me!) Mary is dead.
You can call me anti-catholic, but I prefer Pro-Christ!
He is risen! He is not a defeated figure on a cross. He is risen!
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Acts 2: 9"Brothers, I can tell you confidently that the patriarch David died and was buried, and his tomb is here to this day. 30But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne. 31Seeing what was ahead, he spoke of the resurrection of the Christ,[f] that he was not abandoned to the grave, nor did his body see decay. 32God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of the fact. 33Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear. 34For David did not ascend to heaven, and yet he said,
" 'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand
35until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet." '[g]
36"Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."
He created all of us.
“Through Him all things were made”
Your posts speak for themselves and I will not have a conversation with someone who would post such a disgusting picture.
Goodbye
She is not dead.
What did Jesus say about His mother's role?
You'll find that answer in the Church He founded for us: the Catholic Church.
He is not a defeated figure on a cross.
There is no defeat on The Cross. The Cross is victory.
You're right. Your vitriolic posts weren't directed to me. They were just about me (and others you find objectionable)... to your posse! You will be fine. It's all good! I'm just calling you direct! I guess you just like to whine to others...
spittle? You're cute!
I know your style. I'm glad the internet is keeping me away from the stench!
Acts 7: 48"However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men. As the prophet says:
49" 'Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.
What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord.
Or where will my resting place be?
50Has not my hand made all these things?'[l]
51"You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 52Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute? They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him— 53you who have received the law that was put into effect through angels but have not obeyed it."
Prove it.
Do you understand circular reasoning (that is a rhetorical question!)? Your entire day of posting is nothing but circular reasoning. The Roman church is right because it says so. The church assures you... and Scripture is not subject to your interpretation, without the RC church telling you what it means. Yeah, that makes your group right and everybody else wrong.
Denying the Holy Spirit... That is blasphemy!
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She's dead, Jim...
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Matt 12: 46While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you."[g]
8He replied to him, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?" 49Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."
Petronski: "I did not..."
That’s not proof. That’s another personal attack.
Is that really all you have?
Is that really all you have?
He is risen!
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Romans 14: Romans 14
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.
9For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. 10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.' "[a] 12So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. -NIV
Of course not. I deny your own personal interpretation of it.
The Roman church is right because it says so.
I've said nothing about any "Roman church." I don't know anything about any RC church either. (What is that, some kind of religion based on radio-controlled cars?)
I'm referring to the Catholic Church.
Denying the Holy Spirit... That is blasphemy!
So don't do it!
Of course He is!
Then why leave the idol on the cross?
I have no idea what you mean.
“I don’t understand talk like this.
Perhaps the daynurse can explain it to you.”
Are you being watched by a nurse now?
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