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Dealing with Pirates 101:
Canada Free Press ^
| 4-13-09
| Judi McLeod - Commentary
Posted on 04/12/2009 10:07:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing
Dealing with Pirates 101:
Judi McLeod
April 13, 2009
Now that courageous US Navy Seals have been able to what they have been wanting to do for days, it’s time for Dealing With Pirates 101.
Barack Obama wants help from other countries in making Somali pirates accountable: The US Armed Forces already have the proven ability to deal with them.
Obama and Hillary Clinton should stop calling the pirates “criminals” and tag them for what they are, Terrorists.
Obama should have no difficulty identifying the Somali pirates for what they are:
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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; pirates; somalipirates; terrorists
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To: ma bell
How many of our "allies" have sent COMBAT troops into Afghani(stan)?
Quite a few, actually. They've been over there for as long as we've been over there.
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posted on
04/13/2009 5:54:02 AM PDT
by
dr_who
To: Jonny foreigner
sorry but this is just impossible, because to reach this the US would have to accept the same standart for other nations too. (will not happen). Just imagine a chinese freighter entering a US port and their crew is armed to the teeth. US will not accept that. Currently, when a ship approaches a harbor anywhere, it is met by a boat, a harbor pilot comes aboard, and the pilot guides the ship to the appropriate dock. If a ship had guns aboard, part of the harbor pilot's job could be to put a lock on the arms locker, which would be removed when the ship left port.
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posted on
04/13/2009 6:18:49 AM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
(The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
To: smoothsailing
This pirate incident simply shows how Obama will handle a terrorist crisis.
- Acts of terror against US citizens or interests whether foreign or domestic are matters of law enforcement not national security.
- Military action is not an option and instead the US is to rely on negotiation and diplomacy in response to terrorist attacks.
- Terrorists are to be dealt with solely by the US criminal justice system and tried in US courts
- Least we offend international sensibilities and thus fan hatred of the US, violent senseless acts against US citizens for any reason and by any cause are not to be referred to as terrorism. For example, jihadists who drives bomb laden trucks into a hospitals or schools or plunge hijacked airliners into buildings are just misunderstood individuals driven to their acts by arrogant US policies.
To: The Great RJ
You have a good take on this, try to remove the military angle and insert domestic judicial process instead.
I could say that if Obama sets it up all commanders must have a political officer on board to get approval before they do anything.
Seems like that was the way Russia did things, have a political officer on board the ships and subs, the captain could do nothing unless approved by that politruk.
44
posted on
04/13/2009 6:52:57 AM PDT
by
Eye of Unk
("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
To: smoothsailing
I believe - tho I certainly could be wrong - that the law for pirates is pretty much established.
That is, if captured, executed on the spot.
Or is that more of a "guidelline" than a rule??
45
posted on
04/13/2009 6:55:14 AM PDT
by
Logic n' Reason
(Welcome, one and all, to the islamo-muslim states of obamica!)
To: smoothsailing
Timne for a few of these.
46
posted on
04/13/2009 6:58:58 AM PDT
by
Pistolshot
(The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
To: smoothsailing
All we are doing is making them angry...and now we are a recruitment tool for more pirates.../sarc
47
posted on
04/13/2009 7:32:06 AM PDT
by
blasater1960
( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
To: smoothsailing; FlingWingFlyer; BOBTHENAILER; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Squantos
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posted on
04/13/2009 7:58:57 AM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
(Does 0B0Z0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
To: jz638
Ditto. The Seals are great and did good job but that’s what they train for. I fail to see how shooting a pirate from a perfectly safe location makes one courageous or heroic. It was an extremely difficult task and I’m glad they executed it perfectly but I think the ships captain was the courageous one.
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posted on
04/13/2009 8:32:25 AM PDT
by
BubbaBasher
("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
To: smoothsailing
I was listening to Rush last week and he quoted the former captain of the USS Cole;
LIPPOLD: First, we're not negotiating with terrorists; we're negotiating with pirates. Piracy is a business opportunity. They have a very effective business model. Obviously a terrorist is someone who tries to deter and disrupt for a political goal and to wreak havoc and terror on a society. Pirates, on the other hand, are stopping these vessels so that they can hold them for ransom. It's a very effective business model. The shipping industry and the insurance companies have given in to their demands numerous times over the years, and so consequently it is a criminal activity, not a terrorist activity.
And after hearing the great news that the pirates received bullets through their heads, I immediately thought of this quote. Turns out not to be so "effective" when this business model is applied on Americans. It might work on wimpy Europeans, but rule number one of business: KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER!
To: USNBandit
Alas, sailing vessels can carry pirates too.
Any smart Somali fisherman is going to be armed anyhow, so he doesn’t get pirated himself.
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posted on
04/13/2009 8:44:51 AM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
To: smoothsailing; calcowgirl; Ann Archy; maggief; Grampa Dave; raybbr; george76; Libloather; ...
DUMB PIRATES
The Somali pirates let a US Navy destroyer put a tow line on their rickety enclosed lifeboat??????
NOW THEY'RE DEAD DUMB PIRATES
So what'd the US Navy say to get the three pirates to stick their heads out the porthole...... so that US Navy snipers could pick them off?
ROTFL.
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posted on
04/13/2009 8:53:22 AM PDT
by
Liz
(I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
To: smoothsailing
Why even call them terrorists? Let’s call them pirates and kill them.
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posted on
04/13/2009 9:24:50 AM PDT
by
sig226
(1/21/13 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
To: PhilDragoo; devolve
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posted on
04/13/2009 10:10:14 AM PDT
by
potlatch
(A burden shared gets lighter)
To: Liz
The Somali pirates let a US Navy destroyer put a tow line on their rickety enclosed lifeboat?????? That was my first thought. How in the heck did that happen. And, while they were setting up the tow they must have been awfully close - enough for the seals to go in.
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posted on
04/13/2009 11:41:03 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
To: Liz
So what'd the US Navy say to get the three pirates to stick their heads out the porthole...... so that US Navy snipers could pick them off? "Hey, guys, look! It's Salman Rushdie!"
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posted on
04/13/2009 11:43:12 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: dirtboy
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posted on
04/13/2009 1:10:12 PM PDT
by
Liz
(I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
To: raybbr; dirtboy
This is just a guess-——
...........but it appears to me we were trying to gain the confidence of the pirates-—trying to make them think they were in control, to put them at ease-—while we were preparing for the snipers to strike.
The towline was apparently supposed to be “helping” prevent the lifeboat straying into dangerous rough waters.
Might have got them to pop out of the porthole by yelling something about the towline getting loose.
ROTFL.
Dumb bunnies fell for it.
58
posted on
04/13/2009 1:22:18 PM PDT
by
Liz
(I was like Snow White, then I drifted. Mae West (on liberalism.)
To: Liz
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posted on
04/13/2009 1:27:59 PM PDT
by
raybbr
(It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
To: Liz
So what'd the US Navy say to get the three pirates to stick their heads out the porthole...... so that US Navy snipers could pick them off? ROTFL. "HEY GUYS, Obama has granted you amnesty and Pelosi is offering you student visas and scholarships to Berkely!"
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