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To: kabar
kabar wrote: "They are there because Article 5 of the NATO Charter was invoked for the first time in its history. More soldiers from the UK [152] have died in Afghanistan than Canada [116]. The US has lost 677."

Comparisons of the Butcher's Bill are invidious.

But as you have chosen to do so, bear in mind that Canada has half the population of Great Britain and one tenth the population of the US, so we are paying a Butcher's bBill disproportionate to our population.

The World Trade Center was attacked on September 9, 2001. Immediately following that attack, and before Canada was asked to do so, Canada uilaterally and without being asked, detached naval assets from NATO and sent them to the Gulf to work with US naval forces. This was before the Brits deployed naval assets.

By December 2001, Canadian JTF2 (special forces) bricks were in Afghanistan. By February 2002 Canadian regular forces were in Afghanistan.

Two of the hottest provinces in Afghanistan are Helmand where the Brits are deployed and Kandahar where the Canadians are.

Rumsfield wanted Canada in Afghanistan to enable him to deplloy additional forces to Iraq. We were already there and he felt that we would be best used there.

Notwithstanding posturing by our then Liberal prime minister, Canadian officers attached to US units were left in place even when the units were sent to Iraq. This included line officers in charge of line combat forces while drawing Canadian pay and allowances.

42 posted on 04/12/2009 6:29:55 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
But as you have chosen to do so, bear in mind that Canada has half the population of Great Britain and one tenth the population of the US, so we are paying a Butcher's bBill disproportionate to our population.

Which is why such comparisons are nonsense. The Canadians are the ones who like to trot out per capita losses in Afghanistan to demonstrate that they are doing more than their fair share. The reality is that Canada is not pulling its weight on defense spending and its 65,000 strong force is pitifully small even when comparing it to the US on the basis of population. The US is about ten times larger than Canada, but our defense spending is much more than Canada's $19 billion, i.e., about $700 billion.

The World Trade Center was attacked on September 9, 2001. Immediately following that attack, and before Canada was asked to do so, Canada uilaterally and without being asked, detached naval assets from NATO and sent them to the Gulf to work with US naval forces. This was before the Brits deployed naval assets.

How big is Canada's navy? What assets were sent to the Gulf? And why the constant comparison to the UK? Geographically, it is certainly easier for Canada to respond.

Notwithstanding posturing by our then Liberal prime minister, Canadian officers attached to US units were left in place even when the units were sent to Iraq. This included line officers in charge of line combat forces while drawing Canadian pay and allowances.

LOL. And how many of those were involved in Iraq on the ground?

45 posted on 04/12/2009 6:39:49 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Clive

I think , after reading some of the posts here, this thread should be renamed, “ Canada doing more with less”.

Canadian warship foils third attempted hijacking

Apr 12, 2009 04:30 AM
THE CANADIAN PRESS

For the third time in a week the crew of the Canadian Navy’s HMCS Winnipeg has helped thwart a suspected pirate attack off the Gulf of Aden.

Cmdr. Craig Baines told CTV NewsNet that the Winnipeg dispatched its Sea King helicopter Friday night after a civilian vessel reported four people in a skiff were firing weapons at it.

Once the suspected pirate vessel was located, Baines says a boarding team was sent over.

However, as the team approached the skiff in the dark the crew saw a number of items, possibly weapons, being thrown overboard.

On Wednesday, the Canadian warship was involved in a similar incident involving a skiff with four men firing at a civilian vessel, and on April 4, its Sea King crew warded off another potential attack.

The Winnipeg is currently participating in a NATO-led counter-piracy mission known as Operation Allied Protector.


55 posted on 04/12/2009 7:48:27 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Clive

REMEMBER when Canada gave the world a great surprise?
Canada and the USA will always be watching each other’s backs.

The Hostage Rescue Attempt In Iran, April 24-25, 1980

THANK YOU CANADA!!! CANADA HELPS AMERICANS ESCAPE!!!

President Ronald Reagan presented a medal to the Canadian Ambassador to Iran, Ken Taylor, thanking him for what he did.

On November 4, 1979, some Americans escaped the riots ouside, and hid in the Canadian Embassy for 444 days. What the Canadians did put them in great danger. The Americans were kept a secret, and given fake Canadian passports and snuck out when the Candian Embassy was closed.

Here’s a video of the Iranian Hostage Crises entitled, “444 Days In Iran”

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id7.html


60 posted on 04/12/2009 9:51:27 AM PDT by adanaC (Injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere.)
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