US officials: FBI begins criminal investigation into Somali pirates amid hostage standoff (??)

Newsday ^ | 4/11/09 | Matt Apuzzo

[pissant]

FBI agents are investigating the Somali pirates who hijacked a U.S. ship and are holding its captain hostage, U.S. officials said Saturday, raising the possibility of federal charges against the men if they are captured.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Obama's America

The World's Policeman

[Ben Hecks]

Hostis humani generis

[Kakaze]

For the love of Pete.....find their villages naplam them, sink any vessel they believe the pirates own or take, this crap will stop quick.

Leave the FBI to investigate congress.

[ninonitti]

The FBI investigating this is a waste of time

There's not enough on Wall St for them to investigate?

[SECURE AMERICA]

FBI agents are investigating the Somali pirates who hijacked a U.S. ship and are holding its captain hostage

Investigating? Investigating what? Islamofacists/pirates/terrorists have attacked Nation flagged ocean vessels and held crew hostage and demanded ransome and fired on ships and generally behaved like the terrorist thy are.
Get them in the gunsite and pull the trigger. Screw that investigating crap......

[Fu-fu2]

LOL!!~ but also very sad....

[Popman]

Its a mistake to think you can adjudicate war. If war can be managed by attorneys with brief cases, with suits and ties, serving subpoenas and fashioning brilliant arguments before judges behind mahogany benches, you are not yet at War. War is by its very nature an extra-legal enterprise, it is the state of affairs that exists when lawyers and policemen and judges are no longer able to manage a confrontation. At that point, the men in suits take a recess, and the men with guns go in to kill the men who couldn’t be reasoned with, them and anyone standing near them, you wipe out their leadership and everything of value that can be used to keep them alive, you wipe out whole towns if necessary, whole armies, and when you have completely re-drawn the map and created a new status quo to replace the old toxic one, only then do you let the men in suits with the briefcases resume control. War is the parenthesis that occupies the space between the failure of the old status quo and the birth of the new one. When rule-of-law resumes, when a new circumstance has emerged that permits the resumption of rule-of-law, the war is over

Not mine, but from a Freeper who wrote it. I wish "Zero" would read it.

[SECURE AMERICA]

The FBI
Foolish Beyond Imagination

[ChicagahAl]

"Get the U.S. out!"

Are you suggesting that US-flagged ships should not transit the area? That they should travel around the Southern tip of Africa, rather than transit the Suez Canal?

After Obie's "law-enforcement" attempts fail miserably; I think they will have no other choice. Though, I suppose they could always pay tribute to the pirates.

[bill1952]

What is that terminology?

the status of al Qaeda terrorists is to be found in a distinction first made by the Romans and subsequently incorporated into international law by way of medieval and early modern European jurisprudence.

the Romans distinguished between bellum - war against legitimus hostis, a legitimate enemy) and guerra - war against latrunculi - pirates, robbers, brigands and outlaws.

Bellum became the standard for interstate conflict, and it is here that the Geneva Conventions were meant to apply. They do not apply to guerra.

Indeed, punishment for latrunculi, “the common enemies of mankind,” traditionally has been summary execution.

Though they don't often employ the term, many legal experts agree that al Qaeda fighters are latrunculi — hardly distinguishable by their actions from pirates and the like.

Thus al Qaeda members “can be punished for all hostile acts, including the killing of soldiers, because they have no right to participate directly in hostilities.”
But the Obama administration is about to extend legal rights — intended to protect civilians — to the very latrunculi who want to blow them up by considering the possibility of trying them in U.S. courts.

Indeed, Attorney General Holder did not rule out trying the Somali pirates.

[Star Traveler]

We can take care of our own ships... we don’t have to go protecting the rest of the world who created this problem from their paying off the pirates for years.

I don’t think the U.S. should be “bailing out” the world... LOL...

We’ve had enough “bailouts” for one administration, thank you...

[downtownconservative]

This is from Wikapedia: “Perhaps the oldest of the laws of the sea is the prohibition of piracy, as the peril of being set upon by pirates, who are motivated by their own greed, rather than by national allegiance, is shared by the vessels and mariners of all nations, and thus represents a crime upon all nations;

as such, since the time of the Ancient Romans, pirates have been held to be individuals waging a private warfare, a private campaign of sack and pillage, against not only their victims, but against all nations,

and thus, pirates hold the peculiar status of being regarded as “hostis humani generis”, the enemies of mankind.

Since piracy anywhere is a peril to every mariner and ship everywhere, it is held to be the universal right and the universal duty of all nations, regardless of whether their ships have been beset by the particular pirate captured, to capture, try, and either execute (which is the traditional custom of the sea) or otherwise suppress the pirate, such as by imprisonment.”

Thanks!

[autumnraine]

I’m sure that captain that is held hostage will be glad to know his captors with a gun to his head are being investigated.

This is the biggest pussy President EVER. Even beyond Jimmy Carter. Forgive my language, but he is ridiculous.

[Fantasywriter]

I thought for sure this was the Onion. I still can’t believe it’s serious.

[freekitty]

Can you believe this? I am appalled.

[downtownconservative]

“latrunculi” and “hostis humani generis” certainly should apply to al quaida terrorists, et al, and somali pirates. Summary execution is warranted and justifiable. But this president has no b—ls. Weakness begets trouble. The begetting has commenced in full array.

[TET1968]

Actually we can expect worse.....like our troops, after being executed, dragged through the streets and shown on CNN as entertainment.

[Califreak]

So when do they send in the flame throwers?/

[Jim Noble]

It is a mistake to think you can adjudicate war

Cicero said it better:

"Inter arma enim silent leges" (Between armies the laws are silent).

[Cheetahcat]

Ha Ha Ha Ha this gets better by the Minute ,I am sure those Somalis are shaking in their sandal's!