Posted on 04/08/2009 9:21:19 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
What makes a 'religion' good?
It's time; once again...
Joseph Smith stated that God told him: "they [other churches] were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:19).Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
Sure one could, but that would not MAKE them christian; any more than THEM saying it.
As a side note; the HYPOCRACY of Headquarters in SLC shows big time when THEY claim that Flds folks are not MORMON!
Usually truth and honesty and integrity are useful for responses.
But for you RomneyBOTs, truth is out of the questions.
The Latest and Daily Lies of GOP_Lady
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(about the Romney video described in "Romney in Seven Words")
Latest two versions by GOP_Lady (who was there --wink wink-- saw the event "LIVE" (until caught))
Live? I think not.
============= Now compare that 'story' to 'her' previous posts
from January 2008 via the WAYBACK machine ===============
And her revision when CAUGHT
Conclusion: Romney and GOP_Lady both marched with Martin Luther King
MORE MYTHS from MYTH ROMNEY
Against Myth Romney is 1:
Against Myth Romney is 2:
Susan Englander, assistant editor of the Martin Luther King Jr. Papers Project at Stanford University, who is editing the King papers from that era,
says Myth Romney was untruthful, when she told the Globe yesterday:
"I researched this question, and indeed it is untrue that George Romney marched with [Dr.] King."
Against Myth Romney is 3:
"King never marched in Grosse Pointe, according to the Grosse Pointe Historical Society,
and had not appeared in the town at all at the time the Broder book was published.
Im quite certain of that, says Suzy Berschback, curator of the Grosse Pointe Historical Society"
Of course, you RomneyBOTs continued to attack these educated women, just as you do honorable FReepers
who have spoken the Truth about Myth Romney and his venal, odious deeds.
Lost my coffee on that one.
How many times? Quantity does not matter. Quality matters.
Just like GOP_Lady claiming she/he "does not lie"
even as his/her next post is fabricated, evasive, disingenuous and personal,
the fact is that a RomneyBOT (like their Master) will apparently say ANYTHING,
truthful or untruthful, and laden that with evasive mean, unwarranted, libel,
as GOP_Lady and her legion of harpies have demonstrated in thread after thread.
Care to call me a LIAR now? (Romney claims to be POTUS and receives AIG contributions) -- Diogenesis typed this -- it's his own words.
Why don’t you just come out and say that you don’t trust me because I supported Mitt Romney? That’s what you’re meaning to say, isn’t it?
See, for example, Sen. McCain (not POTUS McCain).
See, for example, Sen. Obama (not POTUS Obama).
Posted by DIOGENESIS:
“Friday, April 10, 2009 9:20:09 PM · 211 of 293
Diogenesis to GOP_Lady
GOP_Lady “ Why did you not type Romey (sic) claims to be President? above the AIG chart like you did on numerous occassions (sic)?”
Why would anyone type such tripe? That is terrible English. Not your first language?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2225388/posts?page=211#211
Fact #1: you conveniently clipped off the important point
which was/is the whole reason you are evasive.
You clipped off "and receives AIG contributions".
Fact #2: Romney is listed as POTUS; Obama and McCain are not.
I’ve answered that question.
Why do you keep asking me it?
Why did you stop typing:
“(Romney claims to be POTUS and receives AIG contributions):” above the chart after I called you on this lie then?
GOP_Lady: "I have no video. I saw it live. I know what happened. It was a spur of the moment joke."
My conscious is clear when I type on this forum “I don’t lie.”
How’s your conscious, oh great FR reporter of misinformation?
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