Posted on 04/04/2009 8:45:51 PM PDT by utahagen
I have been reading about the Montana plane crash that killed two daughters, two sons-in-law, and five grandchildren of Irving "Bud" Feldkamp, who owns a string of abortion clinics in California. I am not interested in debating God's role in this catastrophe; I have no idea why (beyond scientific reasons) this plane crashed. What I would like to hear is freepers' theories about why someone like Irving Feldkamp would own abortion clinics. Am I the only one who thinks Feldkamp is a very unlikely person to get involved in the abortion business? The Feldkamp family is wholesome, devoted to each other, and church-going. Their children attended religious grade schools and they all were active in their churches. I know that Seventh-Day Adventists' position on abortion is (softly) pro-choice, yet it still seems bizarre that a Christian family man like Feldkamp would deliberately profit from abortion. Does anyone out there have any theories about this?
I’m going to go against the grain here and not assign a simple financial nefarious purposes to Feltkamp’s interest in the abortion clinics. I don’t know any more about him than anyone else. But we have to acknowledge that in the US today, abortion is not the abomination to many people that it is to me and most FReepers.
I can imagine that beyond the investment and expectation of a return on his investment, he beieves the clinics are offering a service he sees as helping people, that is legal, in demand, and would be sought elsewhere.
Our views are largely informed by our own environments and experiences. It is likely that the Feltkamp family’s environment is as you note “soft’ on abortion, that it may not be for them, but for others who make that choice they are willing to conduct a business that provides that service. To them, it is probably values neutral. I noted in one story that upon the loss of their grandson a few years ago, they set up a fund at an orphanage, which was an interesting choice to say the least, given the source of much of his income.
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I don't know what 'religion' he claims to follow but as for being a family man, so was Tony Soprano.
We would expect to see them shuttered then turned into “crisis pregnancy centers.”
If a person is willing to kill babies, what would they not be willing to do?
I am asking a question out of sadness that a man who seems to be living a holy Christian life would invest in abortion. Feldkamp is a public figure — I knew his name before the crash — and it is a matter of public record that he owned a lucrative string of abortion clinics. Praising him as a family man and a dedicated churchgoer, then asking how he could have been involved in abortion isn’t “gossiping”. Feldkamp could be a cautionary tale that leads other away from similar mistakes.
not that that means anything, especially in these days.....
its money and elitism....
other people are not as good as you are or your children, so their offspring are not as important.....
plus, its an easy job, 5 days a week, regular hours...
why face the brunt of humanity with hiv, and diabetes, and liver disease and GI bleeders etc when you can have a nice, cushy job directing others to mutilate the unborn offspring of the ugle rabble....
him and his were just better than everyone else......
Good to know that you speak for god. But you may want to clear it with management first.
I was censored and actually banned from the Billings Gazette for even mentioning the Feldkamp abortion clinic story.
The grandfather who was waiting for the families at the Bozeman airport was Dr. Irving Moore "Bud" Feltkamp, a dentist and president of Glen Helen Raceway in Southern California.This site suggests that Irving "Buddy" Feldkamp IV is an OB/GYN.This article claims that Dr. Irving Feltkamp III and Dr. Irving Feltkamp IV, an Obstetrician/Gynecologist, are the owners of Allcare Medical Management, the holding company that operates the abortion clinic, Family Planning Associates, in Mission Hills, California.
Feldkamp's family has gone through the death of a child before. Two years ago, his 10-month-old grandson, Chase, died after he was found to have slipped between a mattress and the edge of a bed during a nap. The child was taken to a hospital and was eventually taken off life support.
The child's father, Dr Irving Feltkamp IV, and his wife and children had planned to skip this winter's ski trip. They drove to Butte from Oregon on Sunday night after hearing news of the crash.
The particular plane that crashed Sunday was registered to Eagle Cap Leasing Inc. in Enterprise, Ore.; Dr. Irving Feltkamp IV is president of the company.
The Pilatus plane crashed and burned in Holy Cross Catholic cemetery in Butte, Montana about 500 feet short of the Bert Mooney airport there. The cemetery has a monument to the victims of abortion.
I believe Irving Feldkamp IV is a dentist, but that he had some involvement with running the abortion clinics.
“it’s money and elitism...other people are not as good as you are or your children, so their offspring are not as important...” I think you’ve nailed it. The elitism angle fills in the gaps. Some very rich people I’ve known — not all, by any means, but a few very powerful and well known ones — seem to believe that they and their families are objectively superior to most of the rabble. When I see photos of the Feldkamp’s beautiful grandchildren, including the one who died two years ago, I wonder how Pam Feldkamp could have laughed at posters of unborn babies. Now, I get it: those weren’t Feldkamp babies, so who cares? We have to pray for these people.
If by chance you venture into reading the Bible, it’s that book with the black cover, you’ll find that those who comment sin over and over again will no longer be able to know the difference between sin and rightousness.
“Having their conscience seered with a hot iron.....”
Yes, I believe you asked a sincere question. My response was to the others who were somehow able to read his motives and declare him guilty.
They may be embarrassed someday when the good Lord says Dr. Feldkamp was a man who saved hundreds or thousands of lives by providing Bible based counseling to women and talking them OUT of abortions.
It is a good thing God knows the heart and judges accordingly. Thank You.
My post makes perfect sense. It’s called letting God determine a man’s motives not you or me.
Donna, you are coming from a particular Christian perspective of the belief that life begins at conception. Personally, I fall into that camp. BUT there are many who do not believe that an abortion within the first trimester is killing a baby. They just do not believe it is a human life at that stage. Perhaps they are rationalizing, or even deluding themselves, but they really don’t (and can’t) think of it as killing babies.
I can’t think of the doctor’s name right now, but a leader in the abortion legalization movement back in the 70’s had a conversion after viewing the film showing an embryo moving in the mother’s womb. He came to the realization that it was, indeed, a human. At the time of Roe v. Wade, medical technology was nowhere near as advanced as it is today, and that decision could not have been reached.
We can only hope and pray for a similar epiphany for Feltkamp and others who now think of that unborn child as a mere mass of protoplasm. It’s not unlike Thomas who had to feel Christ’s wounds before he would believe in His Ressurection.
(By the way: Another factoid about the Feldkamp story that most of the media omit is that one of the feldkamp daughters was five months pregnant with a baby boy.)
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