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To: Ichneumon
“Gee, really? Then what are those hundreds of journal articles I read every year in the field of evolutionary biology, which are a drop in the bucket compared to the vast numbers which are published?” [excerpt]
Well, if they are using a naturalistic methodology, then the resulting discoveries are nothing more than proposed conventions.

“You guys amaze me -- you have no shame when you tell such enormous, transparently false whoppers. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so creepy, and if you weren't trying like hell to get this know-nothing nonsense taught to schoolchildren.” [excerpt]
So, are you going to answer my question about Popper?
320 posted on 04/05/2009 1:20:27 AM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: Fichori; OneVike
[[The truth of the matter is, Evolutionists & Friends do not make scientific discoveries.]]

[Gee, really? Then what are those hundreds of journal articles I read every year in the field of evolutionary biology, which are a drop in the bucket compared to the vast numbers which are published?]

Well, if they are using a naturalistic methodology, then the resulting discoveries are nothing more than proposed conventions.

Wow, Fich -- that attempt to re-define words on the fly in order to avoid admitting you told a whopper is even more desperate and transparent than Bill Clinton's "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is"...

You claimed that evolutionists "do not make scientific discoveries".

I pointed out how ludicrous this is -- there are thousands of such scientific discoveries, large and small, as anyone who has ever cracked a biology journal (or even read pop-sci coverage) is fully aware of.

When called on your transparently false claim, you did what anti-evolutionists typically do -- you failed to admit that you had made a false claim, you failed to show any kind of chagrin whatsoever at being caught telling a big giant whopper, and instead you just attempt to redefine reality into some alternate universe where what you said was somehow not wrong after all.

You goofily tried to redefine "scientific discovery" in a way that made them not "discoveries", but "proposed conventions", whatever in the hell *that* might mean on Planet Fichori... In your own private little universe, discoveries simply aren't actually discoveries, and thus you think you can get away with saying that evolutionists don't make discoveries, they just make things that *look* like discoveries but are something else, so there...

Oh, come ON!

Evolutionists do make scientific discoveries, Fich. You know they do. Just admit it, and admit that you got caught telling a big fat untruth when you said they didn't, and that you were being silly when you tried to re-define simple terms to magically make your initial falsehood somehow "true".

Remember, kids, this is the kind of double-speak, the kind of "words mean whatever I want them to mean if it helps me avoid having to admit anything", that anti-Evos want to confuse schoolchildren with in order to try to tear down actual science (yes, Viriginia, that includes evolutionary biology) and raise doubts about, while pushing their own non-scientific agendas masquerading as "science" when it isn't.

Fich, if you're done playing your silly "discoveries aren't discoveries" word games, it's time to go ahead and admit that you told a whopper, retract it, and apologize for wasting out time with blatant falsehoods.

If on the other hand you want to bluff and bluster on and pretend that you didn't get caught red-handed telling a big old fib in the service of your anti-evolution propaganda, be my guest, it only makes clear to all astute lurkers just how little concern you guys have for truth and accuracy.

But don't expect it to help your credibility any, and don't expect me to waste much time talking with you -- the dodging and weaving and gameplaying gets really old really fast. I prefer to discuss and debate issues with people who actually have things of value to add to the conversation.

[“You guys amaze me -- you have no shame when you tell such enormous, transparently false whoppers. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so creepy, and if you weren't trying like hell to get this know-nothing nonsense taught to schoolchildren.”]

So, are you going to answer my question about Popper?

I have -- so are you going to respond to my amazement at your blatent misrepresentation? Or are you going to continue to pretend that such behavior is unremarkable for anti-evos, just business as usual?

326 posted on 04/05/2009 9:29:22 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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