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Arctic may be ice-free in 30 years: study
AFP on Yahoo ^ | 4/3/09 | AFP

Posted on 04/03/2009 9:09:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Some 80 percent of Arctic ice may disappear in 30 years, not 90 as scientists had previously estimated, according to a new study on the impact of global warming.

"The amount of the Arctic Ocean covered by ice at the end of summer by then could be only about 1 million square kilometers, or about 620,000 square miles," said US researchers who authored the study published Thursday.

"That's compared to today's ice extent of 4.6 million square kilometers, or 2.8 million square miles," they added, warning the development "raises the question of ecosystem upheaval."

The scientists made their projections based on models that took accounted for changes in Arctic ice, which saw "dramatic declines" at the end of summer in 2007 and 2008, when the ice surface dropped to 4.3 and 4.6 million square kilometers (1.7 and 1.8 million square miles), respectively.

The models pointed to a "nearly ice-free" Arctic in just 32 years, with some of the models making the same prediction for 11 years from now.

"In recent years, the combination of unusual warm temperatures from natural causes and the global warming signal have worked together to provide an earlier summer sea-ice loss than was predicted," said James Overland of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 30years; agw; arctic; globalwarming; icefree; noaa; study
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Bring on the models.

No Naomi Campbell, Please.

1 posted on 04/03/2009 9:09:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Anyone wanna invest in Al Gore’s plan for an Arctic surfing club?


2 posted on 04/03/2009 9:10:17 AM PDT by boughtwithaprice
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To: NormsRevenge

anybody wanna bet?


3 posted on 04/03/2009 9:10:27 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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Arctic may be ice-free in 30 years: study

Very True:

If the magnetic poles sudden shift to Brazil......


4 posted on 04/03/2009 9:11:07 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: NormsRevenge

GIGO Model

Garbage In = Garbage Out


5 posted on 04/03/2009 9:12:11 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: NormsRevenge
Some 80 percent of Arctic ice may disappear in 30 years, not 90 as scientists had previously estimated, according to a new study on the impact of global warming.

I'll believe it when "1-800-sandals" starts advertising a "Time of My Life" in the Arctic.

6 posted on 04/03/2009 9:12:20 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, Question everyone else)
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To: NormsRevenge

May, could, might... but actually not happening.


7 posted on 04/03/2009 9:12:50 AM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

When these “experts” can get the weather correct 4 hours from now, I’ll belive them. Until then they can pound sand or ice.


8 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:14 AM PDT by svcw
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To: NormsRevenge

And maybe not!

9 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:44 AM PDT by StACase (Global Warming is CRAP!)
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Some 80 percent of Arctic ice may disappear in 30 year

Or not.

10 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:52 AM PDT by GSWarrior (We have to act now before people begin to realize we don't.)
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Is this guy taking bets?

ML/NJ

11 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:56 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NormsRevenge

More crabs!!!!!!

12 posted on 04/03/2009 9:13:59 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: NormsRevenge

During the ‘70s this same bunch was claiming that by now we would all have frozen to death unless (and there’s always an unless) we all bought into their stooopid agenda.

Screw them. I’m going to go burn another pile of old tires.


13 posted on 04/03/2009 9:14:01 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Born again Libertarian.)
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You beat me by 6 seconds.


14 posted on 04/03/2009 9:14:27 AM PDT by GSWarrior (We have to act now before people begin to realize we don't.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Then where will the polar bears sit waiting for the seals to surface? And will the North Pole be the North Pond?


15 posted on 04/03/2009 9:14:38 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart.........2012--can't come soon enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge
How soon until Washington DC is underwater?

(not soon enough!)

16 posted on 04/03/2009 9:15:47 AM PDT by DTogo (Time to bring back the Sons of Liberty.)
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The scientists made their projections based on models...

First mistake. IIRC, climate models are ridiculously uncertain.

Second, it appears as though the "scientists" adjusted the assumptions for the models based on a two-year observation.

This is a corruption, and of a dubious process in the first place.

By fiddling with assumptions, you can get a model with several (too many) variables to dance to any tune you wish.

(Hmmm, just in time for that Cap and Trade argument, how handy.)

.

17 posted on 04/03/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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This was with the busted satellite data wasn't it?
18 posted on 04/03/2009 9:16:44 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: CMAC51
Is everyone liberal forgetting (conservatives remember it) that it was suppose to be “ice free” last summer and the summer before that. And they even admit that it had more ice last summer than the summer before. Doesn't sound like the direction they were predicting. But now they've made their predictions for longer forecast so as not to embarrass themselves every year.
19 posted on 04/03/2009 9:18:23 AM PDT by techcor (I hope Obama succeeds... in becoming a one term president.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’m gonna get me a real estate shingle and start selling Antarctic Farmland to fools like this.


20 posted on 04/03/2009 9:18:40 AM PDT by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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