Posted on 03/31/2009 8:52:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
ALBANY — After a short, tense campaign, the two candidates in a New York congressional special election that focused on President Barack Obama's popularity and his economic policy were separated by fewer than 100 votes, and it looked likely the race would be decided by absentee ballots.
With all but one of the 610 voting precincts in the 20th Congressional District reporting, Democrat Scott Murphy led Republican Jim Tedisco by 81 votes out of more than 154,000 cast Tuesday in the race to replace Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand. A problem with a machine in Saratoga Springs delayed the final reporting from one precinct.
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“Too close to call” = Win for the dems. We know it’s coming, and it sucks.
“Wow I just don’t get this!! A few months ago I read story after story the Republican party was dead forever. Now when the super rock star Messiah is only two months into his presidency and he CAMPAIGNS for a dem in a blue state it is too close to call and everyone here is acting like it’s over. People we have four years to fight and we are already making huge cracks!!!”
When you hear the White House spinning this as a victory, you know it’s anything but. Rats had a 4% lead in the polls going into the vote and it didn’t hold up.
That tells you a lot right there. And the media will be ignoring this very soon.
It’s actually good that it’s close right now. Because the media wants to trumpet this as an Obama win for socialism. It’s going to backfire.
Thanks Eleni.
I think Bush I was responsible for the intial screw up with Russia.
He spent most of his time trying to shore up the Societ Union while it was collapsing around Gorbachev’s ears. He also visited people like the Ukranians, etc trying to get them to stay in the Soviet area.
THEN, when the Commies collapsed he ignored the new Russian Federation.
Right after the Soviet Union collapsed, the U.S. should have been Johhny-on-the-spot with ecnom,ic support and technical and monetary aid in an attempt to create a pro-western economically stable Russia. We should have worked to establish some kind of mutual economic and military alliance with Russia and the eastern European states to counter the worthless swine who run the ECU.
But they did nothing - nada.
Bush II continued on with his father and Clinton’s idiotic policy of aiding MUSLIMS in Europe against Christians they had oppressed and terrorized for centuries.
Any update on this race this morning? Thanks...
Which is a reason that we are mad as hell and want our country BACK!!!!!!!!!!
(Apologia for repost)
100% correct in everything you said.
We do all of the productive work and they make SURE we barely break even at the end of the year. We get our trip to Disney and the condo in the sun, but, big money from being productive and working your *ss off... NO WAY. The GOP doesn't care about the productive class. It cares about rich people and that is the problem with our government. Think about this as you mail in your tax payment in the next two weeks. Who, pray tell, is the fool?
Source? Thanks.
NOW we are agreed. Thank you!
The GOP is apparently run by K Street elitists who obviously do not care one whit for Conservative values and have no use for us other than to fork over the dough come election times, and man the phones for free on their behalf.
Between the Globalists, lobbyists, and the true RINOs like the McCain family, the GOP has lost touch with us and our values.
Worse yet is that they still do not understand that they will not win without us.
They are going to go the way of the whigs. - Any liberal trash worth his salt can beat his plantation serfs to defeat any RINO.
And until a hard core within the GOP coalesces together around our core beliefs then it is done for as a national party of effective opposition, let alone a party with any hope of a majority.
I am very skeptical that this can be done, because, as I have stated before, they really don't have these values, and most of the rest are too pussified to stand up and take a stand worthy of such men as this one:
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience.
I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the government for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House.
Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received?
Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land.
Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation?
Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love?
Let us not deceive ourselves, sir.
These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which such resort.
I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it?
Has any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies?
No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other.
They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the ministry have been so long forging.
And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument?
Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years.
Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing.
We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain.
Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication?
What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted?
Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves.
Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on.
We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament.
Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the government!
In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.
There is no longer any room for hope.
If we wish to be free— if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending—if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained—we must fight!
I repeat it, sir, we must fight!
An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary.
But when shall we be stronger?
Will it be the next week, or the next year?
Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a guard shall be stationed in every house?
Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power.
The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.
Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone.
There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.
The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.
Besides, sir, we have no election.
If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest.
There is no retreat but in submission and slavery!
Our chains are forged!
Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston!
The war is inevitable—and let it come!
I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter.
Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace— but there is no peace.
The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms!
Our brethren are already in the field!
Why stand we here idle?
What is it that gentlemen wish?
What would they have?
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
Forbid it, Almighty God!
I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
OMG! You guys are FREAKING out! Conspiracy theories and paranoia are flying everywhere. Calm down...breathe... The irrational belief that the Democrats have such a sophisticated, nation-wide apparatus that can steal any election at any time is insane! (And not unlike what some of them were saying not too long ago...)Seriously, chill out. This is hilarious...
As far as the 70,000 more registered Republicans. I think that is way over credited. Many of those "Republicans" have voted Dem in the recent past (Gillibrand, Obama).
What I've noticed in this area is that there is much more blind loyalty to the Dem party. There are a lot with Irish ancestry whose families have never voted anything but Dem. The "Murphy" name was an asset there too. Most Republicans are moderate here but will vote Dem if they like the candidate. It rarely goes the other way.
Bottom line for me. I'm not dancing for joy but I do think it was a small anti-Obama win here. My guess is that many more people who voted for Obama/Gillibrand in November switched to Tedisco than switched from McCain/Treadwell to Murphy (I doubt hardly anyone did that).
I hope to look back on this race and see it was the spark for a turnaround in 2010.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house/rnc-goes-on-air-in-ny-20-speci.html
This is what I found right off the bat. It’s in the first sentance of the sixth paragraph.
Also, I was born in this district and my father still lives there so I do know it pretty well.
“I hate to rain in your Wheaties this morning, romanesq, but this NY election district has 70,000 more registered Republicans than Democrats. Tedisco (R) had a 20 point lead in the polls just weeks before the election. New york as a whole is Democratic, but we should have easily won this seat.
I am afraid our problems getting elected will continue as long as our platform is just anti-Obama. His popularity is over 60% and a majority of the population thinks we are on the right track. We need real ideas and agendas that benefit the working poor, not just CEO’s.
My thoughts”
You are not making it rain here at all. Not to worry as this portends very favorably to the November election, and the polling that said that the Obama backed candidate was up 4% and should have won easily.
Well that didn’t happen.
You should apply your resources elsewhere now. Perhaps eliminating military ballots in the district and you know the usual ACORN/Rat related activities.
There is nothing wrong with a platform supporting the Constitution and the People. Socialism is not the law of the land; it’s just the stealth practice of Obamunists.
I’ll be at the grassroots taxpayer revolt in NYC on April 15th.
And you should keep telling the “working poor’ how much better Obamunism will make their lives when he rations health care and inserts government failure into every aspect of their waking lives.
The nightmares are already here, free of charge. For now.
Obama’s popularity is not over 60%. That only exists in your RAT filled Daily Kos Kidz propaganda. He’ll be fighting 50% soon enough if he’s not there already according to the independent polling data of Zogby.
So take a hike and figure out how to get rid of the military vote like a good Rat. It’s what Rats are good at.
And we will take this victory and carry it to the next victory.
You are of course correct in viewing the November election in this congressional district, not to mention that Tedisco (R) was 4% down going into this special election.
He also had unpaid volunteers working on his behalf against the money that Obama put in with his ACORN type paid volunteers.
In spite of that, it looks like the Obamunists may still lose. It’s most certainly a good sign if they do.
And rascal(RAT) can go down in flames with them. :)
Doesn't that seem odd to anyone? I'm not a tin-foil hatter, but aren't these double- and triple-digit races getting to be just a little too common? Sure, we hear about how "the country is equally divided", but give me a break. What was it, 600 votes in Bush v. Gore? We've got Coleman/Smalley still duking it out over a handful of votes and I'm sure you could come up with plenty in your area (in Nevada, Harry Reid beat John Ensign by about 400 votes the last time Harry ran for office).
I'm just not buying that candidate x gets 50.x% of the vote and candidate y gets 50.y%. Sure it's possible, but is it as probable as what we're seeing? How many times can you toss a coin and have it land on its edge?
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