Posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:17 AM PDT by kellynla
As I was walking through the ammunition aisle at my local Bass Pro Shops, I muttered to the man standing next to me how disappointingly empty the shelves were. Not as bad as last week, he said. I shouldnt have been surprised. Back in February, Cabelas, a publicly-traded outdoor outfitter saw its stock go up 35% in one day when earnings blew away estimates because of very strong sales of firearms and related accessories.
If President Obama has stimulated anything in America, it is demand for guns and ammunition. According to Rich Wyatt, the voluble and intense owner of Gunsmoke -- a firearms training facility just outside Denver -- If I had known it would be this good in the gun business, I might have voted for Obama.
Its not just a couple of stores seeing a run on guns and even more so on ammunition. From local gun shops to WalMart to sporting goods stores, the story is the same: When the store gets a shipment of ammo, particularly .45, 9mm, and .38 handgun ammunition, people come in and they buy it all.
The manager of a local gun shop where Ive been a customer told me that business has doubled since the election. Whereas the typical first time buyer pre-election had generally been a 30- or 40-something male, first time gun buyers now include more younger people, older people, and women than in the past. Theyre buying semi-automatic pistols and shotguns for home defense, as well as concealed weapons. Theres also a strong interest in black guns, military-style assault rifles, both from people who want to buy them because they can as well as others who believe theyll be able to sell them at higher prices someday soon.
Where politics was rarely mentioned during a gun purchase a year ago, the store manager says at least 60% of his customers mention the Obama administration now.
At Rich Wyatts Gunsmoke, We are getting Prius-driving Obama people buying guns because they realize they picked the wrong pony even though they never admit it. Just like my local gun shop, Wyatt has old ladies and young people and liberals buying guns. He says that while there were spikes in gun buying during the Clinton administration, during the Rodney King riots, and even just before Y2K, hes never seen anything remotely on this scale.
A customer I spoke with at Bass Pro Shops (the employees wouldnt speak with me for an article) actually owns a gun shop, but he was buying ammunition there because his wholesaler had run out. His customers are hoarding ammunition and, to a lesser extent, guns. He described a recent spectacle at a gun show where one vendor had a relatively large supply of ammunition and customers were swarming around him buying 50 boxes at a time and not at a bargain price.
At Dicks Sporting Goods, they were almost out of .45 ammunition after having received a shipment just that morning. Not only are people buying as much ammunition as they can find and afford, theyre doing it during the work day rather than taking the chance that it will be gone by the weekend.
As if the message werent clear enough, a sign at a local WalMart said Due to the increased demand from customers for ammunition, our suppliers are increasing production A salesman said that their ammunition supply is now infrequent and unpredictable: We used to get shipments almost every day. Now we only know well have it when we see it. I get at least a half-dozen calls a day asking for ammunition, especially for handguns, and when it arrives, the customers buy everything.
Over at Gunsmoke, Rich Wyatt says Now, its not what the ammo costs; its do you have it?
Much of the demand for ammunition is due to an NRA advertising campaign during election season which described Barack Obamas historical positions on gun issues, including having said that he would support a 500% federal tax on guns and ammunition. And while it is true that Obama has not made many anti-gun statements recently, gun rights expert David Kopel explains clearly that Barack Obama is easily the most anti-gun President in US history.
In his 2004 Senate campaign, Barack Obama said he would like to ban concealed carry permits. Now that Obama is President, Gunsmokes concealed carry courses are selling out class after class (50 people in each) in addition to their 3-day pistol classes, which are already sold out through June.
People are petrified afraid for their rights that Obama is going to attack. And while Obama says he doesnt support banning guns, a 500% tax would effectively be a financial ban on both guns and ammunition. I think the lefts goal is that in 50 or 100 years, there are people who dont even know that they could have bought guns or ammunition.
Colorado is several months behind in processing concealed carry permits because of demand. Last month, it was reported that Florida is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork. In Georgia, firearm permits were up 79% in 2008 over 2007. In Oklahoma, the number is around 90%. In Ohio, the number of concealed carry licenses issued in the 4th quarter of 2008 was 111% higher than the 4th quarter of 2007.
Wyatts concealed carry classes emphasize the basics of gun use, safety, and the law, but Its Politics 101 as well, trying to make sure people understand not only their rights regarding guns but also the Constitution and their rights and responsibilities as American citizens. He tries to make sure people are conscious of the boiling the frog approach by government to infringing on our rights, and gun rights in particular, just slowly enough that the average person might not notice. Just be prepared, he warns, for the return of government saying Were not banning all guns just these guns. And thats part of the reason that theres so much demand for these guns, which is to say just about every type of gun you can imagine.
Since the election, the shares of gunmaker Smith & Wesson have more than doubled, with competitor Rugers shares up nearly as much. Two weeks ago a large gun and ammunition manufacturer, Olin Corp. raised its earnings guidance, anticipating a record quarterly profit for its Winchester ammunition division. The American public is speaking, and theyre saying in no uncertain terms that they dont believe President Obamas claims to support gun rights since his history says something very different.
Rich Wyatts position is typically none too subtle: Barack Obama is right about one thing. We are clinging to God and our guns, and I defy him to try to take either one from us.
As for me, after a day of thinking about the Obama administration and guns, I bought my local WalMarts last box of .38 caliber ammunition.
Why would bootlegging be immoral???
IIRC, Prohibition created a blackmarket and the distribution of said items, and the fact that it was repealed proved that you cannot effectively regulate or control social behavior...
Not that I condone illegal acts...But think about it...Something that is legal one day, and made illegal the next, just because...Doesn’t compute with some people...Think about those firearms you own??? Right???
Imagine the bootlegging (blackmarketing) that is going to be created if they make posessing those things illegal???
But somehow the government has not learned the lesson completely enough to keep them off our backs...Or maybe they know, but still like to “control” things...
Just yanking your chain Marine...;-)
Bottom line: the ammunition commonly sold in the USA as "9mm" is NOT the same as .380, even if the .380 pistol has "9mm" stamped on the chamber. It won't fit in your pistol (I hope) and if it did, firing it would be a bad idea.
If you already know this, please accept my apologies for repetitiveness.
You are correct that 9mm bullets will not work in a .380 as the 9mm is a significantly more powerful cartridge. I could convert the gun by changing out the barrel (if a suitable conversion barrel could be found), but that would kind of defeat the purpose of owning and taking my CCW testing with an heirloom gun. I appreciate the warning though.
I don’t own a .380, so don’t reload it. I do reload 9x19, and I’m really careful to check charge weights and cartridge length. It’s awfully small ...
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
It is my right, granted by God, protected by the US Constitution, and purchased again and again over the years by the blood of my fellow Americans, to keep and bear arms. Anyone who chooses, for whatever reason, to deprive me of my rights (any of them) had better pack a lunch, 'cause he's gonna be there all day.
I am an American...don't f*** with me.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I'll never turn in anything.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Bookmarking for sure, thanks!
My grandfather taught me well...
Cheers!
“Guns store well for centuries, as long as theyre kept from wet or extreme dampness. But how long do various types of ammo store, and under what conditions? I know most ammo is not nearly as hardy over the long term as guns (especially oil-coated guns), but what are the specifics. Can anybody provide solid info, or links to solid info? If theres a way to package handgun and rifle cartridges for reliable 100 year storage (or even 50 year storage), Id like to know what it is. Especially would like to know details of whether certain types of ammo are significantly more stable in long-term storage than others.”
GI Ammo cans with some type of moisture absorbant will work well. You can still buy WWII era ammo that shoots well, and the brass is better than what you get today.
No such problems in central Ohio. Besides, I’m handloading.
No kidding? Everywhere I’ve been they told me that shipments consist of a few scattered boxes of whatever ammo, and it’s gone almost immediately. This is in MN...
Or tell them to jam it.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.