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A Whiff of Fascism from Obama's White House
American Spectator ^ | MARCH 29, 2009 | Matthew Vadum

Posted on 03/29/2009 9:48:45 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: jackmercer

We agree on the base of the matter. No bailout should have ever been given to GM. What will be left unreported to the masses is the aftermath of Obama strongarming Wagoner out of his job. Of course, I’m sure Wagoner is going to be set anyhow, just like the AIG execs will be.

Three Card Obama, on the street corner hustling all of us.


41 posted on 03/29/2009 10:37:39 PM PDT by Carling ("We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," - Warwick Spooner)
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To: CaptSkip

I think he has greater things to fear within the establishment of this country.


42 posted on 03/29/2009 10:41:43 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: jackmercer
GM went to the government, not vice versa. Bailout funds can come with strings just like any other investor that saves a company, they get to call some shots to affect the investment. Bush did the same with AIG CEO Robert Willumstad last September. GM has lost over $80 billion in the last three years and 95 percent of its total value since CEO Wagoner took the reins in 2000. Do you honestly think firing this guy as a condition of taking OUR money is a facist move? I don’t think so, I think like Bush’s firing of AIG’s Willumstad, it isn’t facist, it’s prudent.

Thanks for the sanity! You've saved me the trouble of pointing out the same things I would have. Both guys deserve to fall on their swords. AIG was smoke and mirrors accounting; GM is a dinosaur that has refused to evolve in response to global competition.

Now that we're out of power, a lot of Freepers are taking us to the level of DU creeps.

43 posted on 03/29/2009 11:00:46 PM PDT by IonImplantGuru (I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: RobinMasters

A roaring, searing hot blast of fascism.


44 posted on 03/29/2009 11:01:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gama Tamasi Ma Jyotir Gama)
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To: RobinMasters
Obama can't even pick brackets in the NCAA basketball tourney better than 50% of the people, why would we think he knows better how to, or whom should, run GM?
45 posted on 03/29/2009 11:03:18 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: DarthVader
The Dow will drop 500 points tomorrow. Investors are going to punish Obama hard.

Duly bookmarked.

46 posted on 03/29/2009 11:06:59 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: RobinMasters
A Whiff of Fascism from Obama's White House

That's not a whiff...It's a STENCH!

47 posted on 03/29/2009 11:10:36 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: RobinMasters
A Whiff of Fascism from Obama's White House

That's not a whiff...It's a STENCH!

48 posted on 03/29/2009 11:11:00 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: RobinMasters

Do as George Soros will be doing..

Short GM in the Morning..


49 posted on 03/29/2009 11:11:40 PM PDT by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: IonImplantGuru
AIG was smoke and mirrors accounting; GM is a dinosaur that has refused to evolve in response to global competition. Now that we're out of power, a lot of Freepers are taking us to the level of DU creeps.

Nonsense, the two are completely different. AIG was undermining thousands of interconnected financial corporations and millions of interconnected loans, while GM's poor strategic management affects only itself. Despite it's vast size, GM's support companies are still independent, and can reorient themselves towards other manufacturers and keep going, while AIG's victims collapse. As well, making DU references to try and prevent these observations is itself a DU tactic.

50 posted on 03/29/2009 11:13:39 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: RobinMasters

This is how socialism works.

Course most of us here already knew that...


51 posted on 03/29/2009 11:16:58 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: jackmercer

Another good post. I wish people would step back a little, cool off from the joy they’re getting from being on the delivering side of the hatred for the president, and look at political philosophies instead of just labels. But that’s a useless hope. I’m starting to think I’ll just disconnect from all this stuff and just try to live out my life according to my principles and the rest of the world can go hang, if that’s how they want to live, I can’t stop ‘em.


52 posted on 03/29/2009 11:23:18 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

While giving the Democrats a couple good shots is enjoyable, watching them deliberately and/or stupidity destroy America is not.

I did not risk my life in Vietnam and Cambodian, nor my son’s in Iraq, for these bastards to betray us again.


53 posted on 03/29/2009 11:26:56 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: RobinMasters
Instead of Ferraris, Robin, how about Cherys? Detroit..Soros, Strong, Cherys, Labor Unions, GM CEO canned directly by Obama...set up for Chery production? in Detroit? the below excerpted article gives some background from 2006. Other articles have referred to Mr. Soros having direct relations with 2 Chinese auto manufacturers if conditions in the US are satisfactory...with Hilary in the Dept of State the wheels might be greased there as well. http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_461050.html 'Chery'-picking for China Buzz up! By Dateline D.C. Sunday, July 9, 2006 WASHINGTON Why should Hillary Rodham Clinton worry? Her husband, a former two-term president of the United States, still believes that he has first refusal to the post of secretary-general of the United Nations. A close friend of Hillary's, Hungarian-born George Soros, glories in the label "the man who broke the Bank of England" as he spends millions of dollars trying to create the world-state of "Erewhon," where only a few are more equal than others. Soros already is apologizing for his ideology in a new book aptly called "The Age of Fallibility." Which, of course, being educated at the London School of Economics, Soros knows from their squishy socialism that "Erewhon" is an anagram for "Nowhere." Another close friend of Hillary's is Canadian multimillionaire Maurice Strong, a contender with Soros for the title "A Man from Nowhere." Since 1990, this champagne socialist has mused about a revolution against "industrialized civilizations." Let's remember Strong's background. About 30 years ago New Yorker magazine described Strong as the person upon whom "the survival of civilization in something like its present form might depend." It did not print that Maurice was related to Anna Louise Strong, a Canadian who became Chairman Mao Tse-tung's close friend and translator. Since then, Mo has been senior adviser to the secretary-general of the United Nations and -- at the same time, but paid from different pockets -- senior adviser to the chairman of the World Bank and to the Rockefeller and Rothschild Trusts. In 1972 and 1992, he was secretary-general of the Earth summits in Stockholm and Rio and chairman of a number of international organizations. He was boss of the U.N. Environmental Program and attended scores of meetings of the world's political and economic elites. Maurice knew which buttons to press. But Mo Strong was greedy. He became involved with a number of oil companies -- Canada Steamship Lines, the Montreal Power Corp., Molten Metals -- and mega-rich Iranian and international arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. Sometimes Mo seeks religion. He helped finance a second ark to await the next great flood. He established the Manitou Foundation in the Sangre de Cristo Mountains of Colorado, which has a smorgasbord of alternative religions, from Zen Buddhism through the Haidakhrndi Universal Ashram to a Vedic temple where he can worship his mother goddess, Vedic. It is said that this is where the Rockefellers, the McNamaras and the Rothschilds conduct their very own pilgrimages in this center for global spirituality. Nevertheless, Mo and George more often turn to business with one of the Strong fantasies involving "small groups of world leaders gathering together in private conferences, who decide to overthrow the established political and financial principles in order to save the planet." Strong is bolder than Hillary and Bill; he tells his sycophants that he is "a socialist in ideology" but "a capitalist in methodology," which brings into focus that Chairman Mao used more of the Strong family than Anna Louise. For the last year, however, Maurice has been missing from the United Nations. As a major official, linked to the corruption of the Iraqi oil-for-food scandals, the distinguished Mr. Strong left his usual haunts for his luxury apartment in Beijing's secluded and secure government compound. But business still must be done even when you are avoiding the interrogators. All over Asia, George Soros and Maurice Strong are reported as contemplating flooding the U.S. market with Chinese automobiles by the summer of 2007. Despite a General Motors investigation showing that the Chinese Chery QQ shared "an identical body structure, exterior design, interior design and key components" with the Daewoo's Matiz, GM still reached a settlement resolving its legal disputes with Chery Automobile. Chery already is selling in China at about $3,600 and is being exported to Iran, Iraq, Bangladesh, Cuba, Syria and Malaysia. In the United States, Strong and Soros are expected to market the new car at about $20,000. As of this time, Chery is planning its sales through the New York-based Visionary Vehicles, which, it is said already has the $200 million in escrow from Soros. Politically, what will a caravan of Chinese autos do to the ailing U.S. vehicle industry when they go on sale at a very competitive price in the months ahead of a presidential election? Deals will be done between the Democrats and the labor unions of Michigan. Hillary will reach an understanding with the United Auto Workers union so as not to turn Detroit into the Wal-Mart of the auto industry. The speculation is that either the U.S. Federal Trade Commission will find safety defects in the new product or, as is much more probable, the well-tried Japanese products will be penalized in favor of our "friends" the Chinese as represented by Strong and Soros. But would you buy a new or a used car from these two guys? /Dateline D.C. is written by a Washington-based British journalist and political observhttp://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/datelinedc/s_461050.html/
54 posted on 03/29/2009 11:51:43 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Thank you and your family for your service.

I don't think this country is so weak that one administration can destroy it, but that won't be for their lack of trying.

55 posted on 03/29/2009 11:59:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: jackmercer
I am against this bailout and think in any capitalist system if you suck, you fail, you get bankruptcy. But so long as any tax money is being handed to shitty companies I sure as hell want conditions with it.

I dislike the action of zero firing Wagoner, but I don't disagree with your sentiment (that if the taxpayers are funding GM, then the taxpayers should have a say in it's running). But I do disagree with you in that I see this clearly as a fascist act.

However, it's not THIS action that established the nature of the relationship as fascist. The action that more clearly established the fascist nature of the relationship was the original giving of the billions of taxpayer dollars to the corporation.

(One aspect) of fascism is the marriage of state and corporate power. So while firing Wagoner wasn't the act that ESTABLISHED fascism, it's just an act consistent with where we are, which is in a (still somewhat soft but increasingly growing more powerful under zero) semi-fascist state.

56 posted on 03/30/2009 12:01:08 AM PDT by Swing_Thought (Become a free market capitalist. Accept no substitutes.)
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To: jackmercer
Actually yes.

It is the very definition of.

Entwining government and private industry is opening the door wide open for more of the same. Like socialism, once some is applied it always takes more to fix the consequences of what came before. It doesn't end until everything is consumed by it.

Open the door and reap the whirlwind...

Intentions don't change the result.

57 posted on 03/30/2009 12:27:47 AM PDT by DB
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To: RobinMasters

Where there is a whiff, there is cavity full of it somewhere.


58 posted on 03/30/2009 12:35:07 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: armymarinemom

so you fell the need to capitalize on this? /s lol


59 posted on 03/30/2009 12:36:00 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Peacekeeper357

“Their friends win,we lose!”

The warning was sounded.

Many chose not to listen.

That smell is fear in the air. The Obamites are preparing to devour all that get in the way. Who amongst us is still naive enough to believe that the song remains the same. That we can get America back come the next election. That the Obamites even have any consideration of giving up this power that they now have.

Given to them by an electorate that abdicated their individual responsibility to be an informed citizenry. Relying upon others to do for them what they refused to do for themselves. They refused to think for themselves, preferring instead for their thoughts to be spoon fed to them as one feeds a toddler.

Actions have consequences. What you sow you reap.

Good intentions are a shabby excuse for what we shall all now witness.


60 posted on 03/30/2009 1:38:44 AM PDT by awaken2spirit (When one fornicates with ignorance, the result of that union is chaos.)
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