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I had wondered how the cartels were getting RPGs, auto rifles, etc. from the US. Now we know the truth. They aren't.

Someone posted a good comment to the AP story linked above:

The Mexican gov't., our State Dept. and our ATF seem convinced that 90% of the guns come from stores in the U.S. but where is the documentation? Let's see a list of U.S.-purchased weapons recovered in Mexico: make, model, serial number, the name and location of the U.S. gunshop where it was purchased and the name of the individual who purchased it.
Another wrote:
Cartels buy their arms from countries around the world, most any place where military weapons can be purchased on the black market, or from countries wishing to destabilize North America. They arm themselves from a worldwide black market of full auto military weapons including grenades, land mines and RPGs. They also "procure" their weapons from the less than savory from within the Mexican military.

Drug cartels buying semi-auto AR15 or AK rifles from U.S. gun dealers is viewed as a joke by Mexico's drug cartel, most Mexicans, and unfortunately by the Mexican government. The only people fooled by all the political rhetoric are Americans listening to the likes of Attorney General Eric Holder and other anti-gun politicians.

This is taking a Mexican problem, blaming the U.S. by turning it into a crisis in order further an agenda, and Eric Holder and President Obama knows it and they are taking advantage of it.

Precisely!
1 posted on 03/27/2009 8:20:09 PM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

I watched Sec State Clinton’s eyes just about popping out of her head as she described to Greta Van Sustren that America should have never repealed her husbands assault weapons ban , and that only re-instituting it will save the country AND Mexico from this deadly scourge .
Isn’t this heavy artillery actually coming from the PRC?
Where are the truckloads of AK’s really coming from ? NOT
America .


2 posted on 03/27/2009 8:25:40 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: upchuck

The criminals in washington tell the media whores the guns in Mexico are from American gun shops, of coarse the zombie followers shake thier heads violently YES. Its the American gun shops and the manufacterers of guns that are the problem. When we all nowwhere they are getting thier military grade weapons from. Distabilize, assist, stabilize and the north American Union is born.


3 posted on 03/27/2009 8:27:24 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!)
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To: upchuck

I’m sure Chuck Schumer and the likes are aware that they’re building an AK 47 factory in Venezuela, and he seems to think we are the ones supplying the Cartels? Folks I’d be more worried of an invasion from the south than a revolution here.


5 posted on 03/27/2009 8:33:07 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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To: upchuck

Hillary and Bill had close connections with the Mexican drug cartels. She certainly knows this. But she is a congenital liar.


8 posted on 03/27/2009 8:42:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: upchuck
Just a few postings away an article states:

"Two commanders of the Zetas, the armed wing of Mexico's Gulf cartel, and 37 recruits fled the camp before the police and army arrived, leaving behind 500 grenades, six rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, Blanco said."

Can't you just go in to any old gun shop in Arizona and buy a couple hundred grenades? /sarc off

The notion that large scale drug cartels would pay retail for semi-auto weapons in the USA is nonsensical. A good bit of the cocaine they distribute is produced by FARC affiliated rebels in the jungles of Columbia. Needless to say those guys have plenty of full auto weaponry, including AK-47s from Hugo himself. I'm sure you can buy weapons from them as well as cocaine, and its a lot easier to just load them on the plane there than try to buy them one by one in the USA and smuggle them across the border.

9 posted on 03/27/2009 8:44:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: upchuck; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Travis McGee

good read


10 posted on 03/27/2009 8:47:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: upchuck

More marxist propaganda designed to destroy the Constitution.


12 posted on 03/27/2009 8:56:38 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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19 posted on 03/27/2009 9:24:59 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.

Clearly written by someone who is unfamiliar with Texas.

21 posted on 03/27/2009 9:39:05 PM PDT by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: upchuck; All

Be sure to see this related article:

Hizbullah, Mexican drug cartels working together

“Hizbullah relies on “the same criminal weapons smugglers, document traffickers and transportation experts as the drug cartels,” said Michael Braun, former administrator and chief of operations at the US Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA).”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2216458/posts?page=8#8


24 posted on 03/27/2009 9:47:00 PM PDT by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: upchuck

By the way, the Full Auto Ban Amendment to the 1986 “Firearms Owners Protection Act” never REALLY passed! It was just on a voice vote, and the Nays WAY outweighed the Yeas on the Amendment’s adoption ballot! I heard it! Tip O’Neal just PROCLAIMED that it passed, to the GASPS of many in attendence, and the minority Repubs could not challenge him because of the parlimentary rules in effect at the time! HONEST! History!


25 posted on 03/27/2009 9:50:02 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: upchuck

You mean the drug cartels might be smuggling both drugs AND weapons? I am shocked! Just shocked!


28 posted on 03/27/2009 10:30:03 PM PDT by smokingfrog (When the baker can't make a profit, nobody gets a piece of the pie!)
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To: upchuck
Though clearly illegal in the states in most instances, a lot of Mexicans have more firepower in terms of military weapons than we can only dream of owning here.

Dang, Mexicans are so lucky......

29 posted on 03/27/2009 10:37:24 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: upchuck

Brown, Holder, Obama, Soros, Sardosky are all Globalists and they want US overrun by our own Mandarins as they know the only force that can stop the NWO is the US.

Mexico needs to be cut off at the knees, but GWB was too involved in Globalism himself...


30 posted on 03/27/2009 11:41:57 PM PDT by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: upchuck

I don’t believe a single shred about these weapons coming from the US, not that there isn’t some but not the fully auto stuff, its all political propaganda tools to support misguided agencies that are under an illegal presidents wet dream.

I wish it was possible to BUY BACK these guns from Mexico, thats right, allow Americans to cross the border, buy anything they want and come back home.

Or just do it and don’t say a word.


37 posted on 03/28/2009 3:17:11 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Travis McGee

Really good article here.


38 posted on 03/28/2009 3:18:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: upchuck; Joe Brower

Great post.


39 posted on 03/28/2009 5:24:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: upchuck

...Go back to bed America, yer guber-nitwits are in control. We got a “well regulated militia” to protect yer bovine asses. Here’s yer sling shot and pea shooter, oh yea, BB gun...

...Hmmm, do I need the /sarc tag???


42 posted on 03/28/2009 7:07:50 AM PDT by gargoyle (...Lincoln abolished slavery, Obama wants it back, for most of us...)
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To: upchuck

If anyone remotely connected to Obama says anything it is nothing but propaganda. Holder says we should ban guns because they are being used in Mexico.


43 posted on 03/28/2009 7:11:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Anyone wanting the government to take over medical care should stand in line at the post office)
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To: upchuck

I wonder why there isn’t a big enterprise smuggling automatic weapons into the States to sell. Looks like it could be as lucrative as the drug business.


44 posted on 03/28/2009 7:14:22 AM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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