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Only Conserva-tarians Can Save the GOP
Canada Free Press ^ | 2009-03-19

Posted on 03/23/2009 10:30:09 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

BY JERRY A. KANE

At what point does complacency end and panic set in for the members and leaders of the Republican Party? When will they notice the empty hour glass and recognize wickedness for what it is? The hordes of satiated simpletons shouting in rhythmic cadence, “Oh we love, the O-One … Oh we love, the O-One” is not the Winkie chant of guards entering a castle in a scene from a classic fantasy film. The ill winds of the 2006 and 2008 elections that uprooted the GOP House and Senate leadership and sent Republicans spiraling downward were not flash-in-the-pan Kansas dust devils but full-blown Category-5 whirlwinds.

The party of Ronald Reagan has been victimized by disorganized thinking, held spellbound, and led astray by the siren call for moderation from its left wing, which by nature votes for progressive governance. Before Republicans begin their assault on the castle to douse the progressive Democrats’ power grab, the party’s conservatives and libertarians, i.e., Conserva-tarians, must come out from under the spell and cast out the treacherous progressive element from the positions of power in their own ranks.

Caught up in the tidal wave of the ’94 election, Republican exuberance soon gave way to a heightened sense of self-importance; instead of governing on principles and fulfilling their Contract with America, Republicans lost their way and spent the next 12 years trying to convince the electorate that their compromises were smart, courageous, and compassionate. Now, it’s up to Conserva-tarians to rise to the occasion, accept the challenge facing them, and move the party in the direction of limited government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, greater economic opportunity, and respect for this nation and its heritage.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; libertarian; lp; mccain; mccaintruthfile; moderates; olympiasnowe; rino; rinopurge; rinos; specter; susancollins
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To: rabscuttle385
Before Republicans begin their assault on the castle to douse the progressive Democrats’ power grab, the party’s conservatives and libertarians, i.e., Conserva-tarians, must come out from under the spell and cast out the treacherous progressive element from the positions of power in their own ranks.

Bump! You can't win the game when your quarterback is playing for the other team.

21 posted on 03/23/2009 11:07:20 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rabscuttle385
>>>>>>Only Conserva-tarian values and principles can restore the GOP to consequence.

"Conserva-tarian" = Libertarian/libertarian driven hogwash!

22 posted on 03/23/2009 11:08:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: rabscuttle385

I am sick of the GOP. We need to have a strict a constitutional party. Repeal some absurd amendments. Stop foreign aid, get out of Afganistan. Get back to state rights. This government is useless and too big.

I will never again vote for a RINO. I don’t care about the ramifications of Supreme Court appointments or what else the RINO’s promise. 90% of all GOP are worthless. It is truly time (if not already too late) to get rid of this lot self serving idiots.


23 posted on 03/23/2009 11:09:00 AM PDT by vets son
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To: TheBattman
dead - dead - dead...

Is that a white flag, I'm looking at?

24 posted on 03/23/2009 11:10:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: vets son

“... Stop foreign aid, get out of Afganistan. ...”

While I agree with you, ANY suggestion of ANY change to our foreign policy gets you immediately removed from electoral consideration.


25 posted on 03/23/2009 11:17:26 AM PDT by Longdriver
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To: rabscuttle385
Senators Olympia Hiss-Snowe, Susan Ames-Collins, and Arlen Rosenburg-Specter

Perfect descriptions!

26 posted on 03/23/2009 11:18:27 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Reagan Man
"Conserva-tarian" = Libertarian/libertarian driven hogwash!

Exactly! The party of Ronald Reagan has been victimized by disorganized thinking, held spellbound, and led astray by the siren call for moderation from its left wing,

Like all of the liberaltarians who want to legalize drugs, prostitution, provide greater access to pornography, legalize homosexual marriage and forget about abortion?

27 posted on 03/23/2009 11:20:27 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..
Conserva-tarians must come out from under the spell and cast out the treacherous progressive element from the positions of power in their own ranks.



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28 posted on 03/23/2009 11:28:42 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: wagglebee
"Like all of the liberaltarians who want to legalize drugs, prostitution, provide greater access to pornography, legalize homosexual marriage and forget about abortion?

If you are truly against those issues, your best bet at eliminating them IS at the State level, not at the national level.

And it is too bad that no one in the GOP has told you (or any of us) that, before!

29 posted on 03/23/2009 11:33:39 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
If you are truly against those issues, your best bet at eliminating them IS at the State level, not at the national level.

That ONLY works if you amend the Constitution to remove the interstate commerce clause and the 14th Amendment. So, it IS a federal issue.

30 posted on 03/23/2009 11:36:45 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: WayneS

Yes, I have and that is most likely where I’m headed. Irregardless if that means another Dim in the Whitehouse. Bottom line there is very little difference in the 2 parties.


31 posted on 03/23/2009 11:40:12 AM PDT by vets son
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To: wagglebee

***That ONLY works if you amend the Constitution to remove the interstate commerce clause and the 14th Amendment. So, it IS a federal issue.***

Not really. All you need to do is “interpret” them the way the founder’s intended (or in the 14th Amendment’s case, the drafters). The Interstate Commerce Clause was added to prevent states from enacting trade barriers such as tariffs and such against one another; it was a free trade clause among states.


32 posted on 03/23/2009 11:42:50 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin

AND get a FEDERAL court to agree with you and since that WILL NOT HAPPEN, your argument is moot.


33 posted on 03/23/2009 11:44:49 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Right, so I should just stop arguing for original intent. That’s a much better idea! /s


34 posted on 03/23/2009 11:46:34 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin

Your argument will never work in these areas.


35 posted on 03/23/2009 11:47:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Bokababe
I'll take each one of your points. Have you noticed the ads on TV for drugs? If you want to pay to get your rocks off, would you have a problem finding it? Pornography could not get any more accessible. Homosexual marriage I agree is absurd but it is a state issue. Abortion is already legal.

So of most all you have stated is already allowed under the law. I agree that states need to assert their sovereignty under the constitution

36 posted on 03/23/2009 11:53:38 AM PDT by vets son
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To: Jack of all Trades
"Conservatives actually showing up in large numbers to vote for GOP candidates would help too. Not stabbing the GOP President and candidates in the backs because there not Santa Claus wouldn’t hurt either."

It is exactly that thinking that has us where we find ourselves today. Don't expect widespread conservative support when you abandon conservative principles. Bush 43 was solidly supported by conservatives on issues where he acted like a conservative. When he acted in the middle, he did not receive strong resistance. When he governed no differently than a big-spending, open-borders liberal he received little conservative support.

What is it that you want other than blind party loyalty?

37 posted on 03/23/2009 12:08:56 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: wagglebee
Like all of the liberaltarians who want to legalize drugs, prostitution, provide greater access to pornography, legalize homosexual marriage and forget about abortion?

Would you kindly show us all where in the US Constitution any of these things you mention are in the legal purview of the federal government?

Every one of those issues looks like either state or personal issues, and the fedgov (including all RINO's too)is WAY overstepping its legal grounds in proposing and enacting any form of legislation, or otherwise usurping the will of the people over the level that actually HAS legal jurisdiction.

Then again, many who claim a conservative mantle are merely control freaks who don't know the difference between legal and moral. Morality must be taught from an early age, it cannot be legislated into existance, no matter how badly it is desidred.

38 posted on 03/23/2009 12:34:29 PM PDT by Don W (People who think are a threat to socialism)
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To: MEGoody

The big question really is whether or not Conservatives abide by ‘live and let live’ for other adults or whether Conservatives want to enforce their values and standards on others.


39 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:03 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Obama - Taking jobs from Americans.)
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To: wagglebee
Fourteenth Amendment (Section of relevance):

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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There is one and only one way that I can think of under this clause to ultimately prevent legally recognized "gay marriage" -- and you are not going to like it.

That is to remove "marriage" from government jurisdiction, so that it cannot decide one way or another what constitutes "a marriage".

Instead, we'd all have legal "domestic partnerships" , and leave the concept of "marriage" to priests, ministers and rabbis to interpret, individually, instead of "casting pearls (the concept of marriage) before swine (politicians). In a sense, this would be "only rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's" -- the legality of the issue, not the Sacramental nature of it.

I live in California where a bitter election battle was just fought over this very issue and it is being challenged in the courts. I don't expect the clause added to the State Constitution preventing gay marriage to hold, specifically because of the 14th Amendment. But if we had taken the concept of "marriage" out of their reach and placed it where it belonged -- with religious leaders -- to begin with, we wouldn't be having this problem.

40 posted on 03/23/2009 12:43:28 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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