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To: Aroostok Republican

Hard to know what to believe. The document you sight was apparently proven falsified, ya know, if enough citizens are concerned, it is NOT expensive for the president to PROVIDE THE COURTS with the actual document. He apparently thinks he is above this, or else he does not believe it matters. It does. It needs to be put to rest. Obama has a very shady past and we at the very least deserve to know that he qualifies for this post he is screwing up so badly, legally.


82 posted on 03/21/2009 11:15:57 AM PDT by Republic (Jedem das Seine)
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If the Certification of Live Birth that Obama posted on the web last July was fraudulent or forged, the Attorney General of the State of Hawaii (who is a Republican) could have sought a subpoena for the original vault copy long form document to compare it to the posted document.

The fact that he hasn’t done that says to me that in accordance with Hawaii law, there is no information on the short form Certification that isn’t also on the vault copy document.

At the bottom of every short form certificate it states “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Obama’s Certification says that he was born at 7:24 p.m. on August 7, 1961 and that he was born in the City of Honolulu, in the County of Honolulu, on the Island of Oahu, in the state of Hawaii.

Two notices of his birth appeared in the Sunday Honolulu newspapers on August 13th, 1961, the following Sunday after his birth.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg

At the joint session of Congress held on January 8, 2009, any one Representative and any one US Senator COULD have submitted a written objection to the certification of the Electoral College vote by Vice President Cheney. No members of Congress objected to the certification of the vote, the certification of the vote of the Electoral College was unanimous.
TABULATION JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS

The 2008 Electoral Votes (those formally cast by Presidential Electors back on 15 December 2008: these Electors having been “appointed [as well as- at least theoretically- “pledged”] via the results of the Presidential Election in each of the 50 States plus the District of Columbia back on 4 November 2008) are counted and tabulated before a Joint Session of both houses of Congress, presided over by the constitutional President of the Senate (Vice President Dick CHENEY), after which it is officially declared who has been elected President and Vice President of the United States of America.

Vice President Cheney gaveled the Tabulation Joint Session to order at 1:08 PM EST (1808 UTC)

538 total Electoral Votes (1 per each U.S. Senator and Representative in Congress to which each State is entitled, plus 3 for D.C.)- thus, there were 538 duly appointed Presidential Electors re: 2008.

No objections were raised by any Senators or Representatives to the counting and tabulating of the Electoral Vote from any State (or the District of Columbia). The Certificates of the Electoral Vote from all 51 jurisdictions seemed “to be regular in form and authentic” and the total Electoral Vote as “ascertained and delivered to the President of the Senate” by the four Tellers- two from each house of Congress, one from each side of the aisle:

from the UNITED STATES SENATE
Senator Robert BENNETT (R-Utah)
Senator Chuck SCHUMER (D-New York)
from the U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Congressman Robert BRADY (D-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Dan LUNGREN (R-California)

was determined to be as follows:

270 Electoral Votes (a Majority of same) necessary to elect

ELECTORAL VOTE for President of the United States:
for BARACK H. OBAMA of Illinois: 365 votes
for JOHN S. McCAIN III of Arizona: 173 votes
ELECTORAL VOTE for Vice President of the United States:
for JOSEPH R. BIDEN of Delaware: 365 votes
for SARAH H. PALIN of Alaska: 173 votes
Therefore, it was officially declared that

BARACK H. OBAMA was elected President of the United States
JOSEPH R. BIDEN was elected Vice President of the United States for four-year terms beginning at Noon EST (1700 UTC), 20 January 2009.

Vice President Cheney dissolved the Tabulation Joint Session at 1:36 P.M. EST (1836 UTC)


90 posted on 03/21/2009 11:36:50 AM PDT by jamese777
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