[Arkinsaw]

Would you really argue that the United States was not acting as a thug with slavery? Dred Scott, the Kansas-Nebraska Act and an institution that was continuing on with much pain and suffering and a black mark on this nation as a beacon of freedom?

What I argue is is that regardless of how you answer those questions it makes zero difference in the judgment of John Brown's actions.

Did the US government act thugishly at Waco? Yes. Did that give Tim McVeigh the right to cruelly slay an innocent Bailey Almon and others? No.

No matter what the answer to your question it does not let John Brown off the hook.

There is no evil way to do good and no good way to do evil.

[bushfamfan]

Talk about apples and oranges and you bring up Timothy McVeigh! John Brown is getting his final judgment just as anyone who is involved in killing and warfare. I believe he was just in his war and you and I obviously disagree. Too much indifference to the injustice for far too long.