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AIG payments to banks stoke bailout rage
Reuters ^ | 16 Mar 2009 | John O'Callaghan and Lilla Zuill

Posted on 03/16/2009 10:02:27 AM PDT by BGHater

Goldman Sachs Group Inc and a parade of European banks were the major beneficiaries of $93 billion in payments from AIG -- more than half of the U.S. taxpayer money spent to rescue the massive insurer.

The revelation on Sunday by American International Group Inc was another potential public relations nightmare, coming on the same weekend that the Obama administration expressed outrage over AIG's plan to pay massive bonuses to the people in the very division that destroyed the company by issuing billions of dollars in derivatives insuring risky assets.

The size of the payments also illustrates how seriously a potential collapse of AIG was viewed by the regulatory authorities. U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said in an interview with CBS news magazine "60 Minutes" that the failure of AIG would have brought down the financial system.

AIG, an embattled insurance giant that has received federal bailouts totaling $173 billion and is now paying $165 million in employee bonuses, is at the heart of a global financial crisis that President Barack Obama is trying to address with plans for trillions of dollars in spending.

As part of those efforts, Obama will announce steps on Monday to make it easier for small business owners to borrow money, officials said.

But the revelations that billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars were funneled through AIG to Goldman Sachs -- one of Wall Street's most politically connected firms -- and to European banks including Deutsche Bank, France's Societe Generale and the UK's Barclays could stoke further outrage at the entire U.S. bank bailout.

FINANCIAL SYSTEM AT STAKE?

The fact that billions of dollars given to prop up giant insurer AIG were then transferred to European banks and Wall Street investment houses could raise new doubts about whether the rescue was really economically necessary.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: aig; bailout; blackhole; bush; economy; obama
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1 posted on 03/16/2009 10:02:28 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

AIG is arrogant! They know that NOONE will allow them to fail, as it would bring down the international economy worldwide. AIG’s deriviatives are still a possible tank for the markets, and these executives hold all the cards...however tense the moment. It’s blackmail of the US government....and our taxpayer dollars.


2 posted on 03/16/2009 10:08:03 AM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it's not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: BGHater

I really enjoyed reading the last graph in your post.

Oh well, I’ve always wanted to own an insurance company!


3 posted on 03/16/2009 10:10:40 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Do your duty in all things." Robert E. Lee)
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To: BGHater

This is not about AIG. this is about the government meddling in the affairs of private businesses.

Let’s see - first Barney Frank and other politicos bend the arms of financial groups to lend more to make people happy, then more politicos lend tax money to the guys who politicians select to help, now the same politicos are braying that decisions made by these institutions are not behaving the way that the govt thinks they should.

I say to the politicians: GTFOOTW


4 posted on 03/16/2009 10:19:47 AM PDT by bestintxas (It's great in Texas)
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To: BGHater
I thought that from the beginning the argument for a bailout was that AIG's failure would wreak havoc in the global financial system because of its global ties? Why is this a surprise to anyone?
5 posted on 03/16/2009 10:24:00 AM PDT by Arguendo
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To: BGHater

CDOs are criminal activities created to get avoid insurance regulations, justified by Greenspan and the “freeeedom” crowd who think banksters should have no laws because laws inhibit banks’ activities to selflessly make us all rich, rich, Rich!

It was economically necessary to Goldman Sachs and others who contribute massive bribes, aka “free speech”, as campaign contributions. The foreign entities made it plain that they would cease to bail out American tax “cuts” unless Bush bailed them out too.


6 posted on 03/16/2009 10:24:15 AM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: bestintxas

“other politicos bend the arms of financial groups to lend more”

Did Barney and pals instruct AIG and others to invent CDOs?


7 posted on 03/16/2009 10:25:11 AM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: Arguendo

“Why is this a surprise to anyone?”

Why is it a surprise about the bonuses when the Paulson/Geithner made it crystal clear that money was given out without limitations?


8 posted on 03/16/2009 10:26:48 AM PDT by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: BGHater
Rush said the bonuses money is about one tenth of a percent the money given to them.
9 posted on 03/16/2009 10:28:23 AM PDT by G-Man 1
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To: G-Man 1
This isn't really about the ‘bonus’ money. But, the continued support of putting money down a black hole.

Especially, international ones.

10 posted on 03/16/2009 10:36:40 AM PDT by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: Shermy
CDOs are criminal activities...

Not exactly. Mortgage backed securities, when utilized properly, provide for a more efficient market and lower interest rates to consumers. The underwriting of the loans that were the security for the collateralized obligations was the main problem. As part of that, the underwriters did not take into account that house values don't necessarily go up as interest rates go down. There were other problems as well, but the vehicle, i.e., CDO's, was not the problem.

11 posted on 03/16/2009 11:09:58 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Kackikat
AIG is arrogant!

Could be, but my bet is that the Feds funneled the money through AIG to the banks. The fact that AIG was going to lend the money to foreign banks was part of the plan.

The politicians are criticizing the bonuses to cover up the foreign lending issue.

12 posted on 03/16/2009 11:12:13 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye

I couldn’t agree more.

This has been the federal government laundering taxpayer money through AIG.

The bonus kerfuffle is a “distraction.”


13 posted on 03/16/2009 11:26:25 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Most Effective Obama Critics: Charles Dow and Edward Jones" ~ John McCormack ~ The Weekly Standard)
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To: BGHater

Goldman Sachs strikes again. They have hijacked the US Treasury as their own personal piggy bank. Paulson was giddy when he got TARP rammed through congress after seriously bribing the Senators and House with goodies and pork. Now Geithner takes over making sure the GS team is always getting their payout from US taxpayers. GS needs to be investigated, these are the guys the FED is feverishly trying to protect from being found out. Instead of letting them fail, they are going to be the last man standing.


14 posted on 03/16/2009 11:56:18 AM PDT by Gen-X-Dad
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To: Loyal Buckeye

“AIG was going to lend”...

what are you talking about? AIG insured (CDS) those deriviatives and had to pay those banks.
Show me the link where it says AIG “lent” that money to those banks.


15 posted on 03/16/2009 2:33:34 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it's not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

As for the politicians like ZERO claiming to do something about the bonuses...that’s just bogus BS, and I never listen to anything they say. Those liars are just a diversion from what’s really going on. Even if they were to arrest someone, or have a trial, it’s a distraction, and nothing more.
We are only half way through this mess, and any recovery will be temporary.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 2:36:23 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it's not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat

Then of course when it was being discussed, you thought they should have been forced to bankruptcy?


17 posted on 03/16/2009 2:38:03 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

What kind of person are you? Don’t put words in my mouth or thoughts in my mind. Many people have retirement accounts and insurance in AIG, and I would NOT want anyone to be hurt financially. Just because truth doesn’t fit your idea of reality isn’t my problem.


18 posted on 03/16/2009 2:46:23 PM PDT by Kackikat (It isn''t over till it's over, and it's not over yet.....when the TRUMPET sounds I'll be gone...)
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To: Kackikat

I simply asked a question. Once they take the government money, with no preconditions, no one should complain to them how they spend it. Congress wrote the TARP bill, they should be scolded, but somehow they get a pass.

BTW, I was against bailout money for any company. They either stand on their own merits, or they don’t stand.


19 posted on 03/16/2009 2:50:01 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: BGHater

I haven’t seen this question asked....

Why is AIG paying bonuses in a division that lost billions?

Maybe I’m old-school or simple minded, but I thought that if you didn’t have a good year, no bonuses were paid.

Why is anyone at AIG getting a bonus?

AIG stockholders, why were contracts allowed to be written that paid bonuses to executives when they ran the company over a cliff?


20 posted on 03/16/2009 2:54:11 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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