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Why the GOP Can't Win With Minorities (Excellent Column)
WSJ ^ | 3/16/09 | Shelby Steele

Posted on 03/16/2009 4:14:41 AM PDT by RangerM

Today conservatism is stigmatized in our culture as an antiminority political philosophy. In certain quarters, conservatism is simply racism by another name. And minorities who openly identify themselves as conservatives are still novelties, fish out of water.

Yet there is now the feeling that without an appeal to minorities, conservatism is at risk of marginalization. The recent election revealed a Republican Party -- largely white, male and Southern -- seemingly on its way to becoming a "regional" party. Still, an appeal targeted just at minorities -- reeking as it surely would of identity politics -- is anathema to most conservatives. Can't it be assumed, they would argue, that support of classic principles -- individual freedom and equality under the law -- constitutes support of minorities? And, given the fact that blacks and Hispanics often poll more conservatively than whites on most social issues, shouldn't there be an easy simpatico between these minorities and political conservatism?

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blackvote; conservatism; elections; gop; hispanics; hispanicvote; identitypolitics; minorities; politics; racism; republican; shelbysteele
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you for providing the link and I did read it.

I agree 100% with your commentary

But I think he would also agree that broad generalizations ie. “blacks only vote for welfare” are not a reflection of Conservative principals.

I live in a diverse suburban upscale community just east of Columbus OH. My neighbors are 2 doctors (black), pharmacist (white), real estate agents(white), dual income state employees(black) and even a local strip join owner(white). I talk to them, I saw who had what signs in their yards. Welfare is NOT the primary voting motivation of these people and my little sub division was divided largely along racial lines.


181 posted on 03/16/2009 9:21:14 AM PDT by Evoter
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To: maica

I changed the status of the thread to locked.


182 posted on 03/16/2009 9:25:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: RangerM
Theodore H. White wrote a long time ago in The Making of the President - 1964 where he made the point, "Democrats are for Santa Claus, Republicans are for virtue." Our side has a tough sell when those minorities, and even a chunk of the majority, only vote for one thing, more welfare. I'm with all here but I'm just saying our side always has an uphill battle, the best thing to do is reach out to the disaffected who are conservative but sat out because of the poor candidates we have been running.
183 posted on 03/16/2009 9:32:07 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: RangerM
Because the GOP hasn't the cajones to openly declare this is the reality...and confront minority delusions head-on:


184 posted on 03/16/2009 9:48:53 AM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: wolfcreek
"Repubs are bigoted racist so any minorities who are Repubs are Uncle Toms."

TV is our biggest enemy.

185 posted on 03/16/2009 9:56:31 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: donna

.....Conservatives only have the truth.

Unfortunately there are too many ‘conservatives’ who are like Pontius Pilate. “What is truth”. They don’t recognize the truth when they see it.


186 posted on 03/16/2009 9:57:31 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: jveritas

As someone said in the duplicate thread of this article, it is not conservatives who have to evolve to attract minorities, it is minorities who must evolve before they are capable of embracing Conservative concepts.

And their growth and development is stunted by revisionist depts of education and treasonous MSM outlets.


187 posted on 03/16/2009 10:01:10 AM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: rockrr
I agree with what you said, but I think that most of the entire country has fallen for the myth of the entitlement society, not just a few groups. Too many people are afraid of the future (which is normal)and have turned to government instead of facing the fear. Everybody hopes that big daddy government will take care of them and solve their problem. It won't- government serves itself only, and consumes all else. Like it or not, there are hard facts about life and the availability of resources that simply must be faced by everyone.They are part and parcel of dealing with life.

This hope that they can be avoided, or worse, paid for by someone else, simply cannot be, no matter how much we wish it.

But the people to whom I broach this topic simply will not hear it. Therefore, I believe we are in for a national reality check. For the sake of all concerned, I hope it comes swiftly and thoroughly. The longer it takes, the more and greater, will be the suffering.

188 posted on 03/16/2009 10:03:07 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Evoter
Generalization is not 100% but it is majority. Based on your posting you think that generalization encompass a 100% of a certain population but it does not. You are giving an example of two black doctors in your neighborhood and telling us that they do not vote democrat because of welfare. Of course they will not democrat because of welfare since they are making money and a lot of it. However these two are a minority among blacks and in your case you took the minority case and you want to make it a general case to build your argument.

A majority of blacks vote democrat because they want more governments handouts, entitlements and affirmative actions. That is the fact.

189 posted on 03/16/2009 10:06:06 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

Generalization is not 100% but it is a majority. Based on your posting you think that generalization encompasses a 100% of a certain population but it does not. You are giving an example of two black doctors in your neighborhood and telling us that they do not just vote democrat because of welfare. Of course they will not just vote democrat because of welfare since they are making money and a lot of it. However these two are a minority among blacks and in your case you took the minority case and you want to make it a general case to build your argument.
A majority of blacks vote democrat because they want more governments handouts, entitlements and affirmative actions. That is the fact.


190 posted on 03/16/2009 10:09:43 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: Evoter
Generalization is not 100% but it is a majority. Based on your posting you think that generalization encompasses a 100% of a certain population but it does not. You are giving an example of two black doctors in your neighborhood and telling us that they do not just vote democrat because of welfare. Of course they will not just vote democrat because of welfare since they are making money and a lot of it. However these two are a minority among blacks and in your case you took the minority case and you want to make it a general case to build your argument.

A majority of blacks vote democrat because they want more governments handouts, entitlements and affirmative actions. That is the fact.

191 posted on 03/16/2009 10:10:38 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

BUT...

Plenty vote conservative on social issues. Gay marriage in CA died not because of the Mormons but rather the minority votes against it.

Hard to sort all of this out.


192 posted on 03/16/2009 10:14:48 AM PDT by misterrob (FUBO----Just say it, Foooooooooooooo Boooooooowwwwww. Smooth)
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To: misterrob

But... for them economics trump any social issue and that is why Republicans did not get more than 20% of the black vote in the last 50 years.


193 posted on 03/16/2009 10:16:51 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: misterrob

“Plenty vote conservative on social issues. Gay marriage in CA died not because of the Mormons but rather the minority votes against it.

Hard to sort all of this out.”


Yeah a ballot vote a few months ago in California, that really has equal weight with all the generations of voting that preceeded it and that took place along side it.


194 posted on 03/16/2009 10:20:35 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: RangerM

How about we repeal the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act. Disband ALL race based political and lobbying groups starting with the Black Caucus & The Hispanic Caucus & go from there?


195 posted on 03/16/2009 10:23:08 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: RangerM

...something bothers me about this, bump...


196 posted on 03/16/2009 10:24:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: Heartland Mom

Wanna know how we can win over minorities?

Make commercials that put racist Democrats in the spotlight. Start with the gun control laws after the civil war, and go up to today.

It will be quite effective.


197 posted on 03/16/2009 10:24:41 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: aflaak

ping


198 posted on 03/16/2009 10:29:21 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (The U.S. Constitution may be flawed, but it's a whole lot better than what we have now)
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To: RangerM

*Bumping* this OUTSTANDING column.


199 posted on 03/16/2009 10:33:29 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: jeltz25
"never get more"

In 1960, Nixon got forty-five percent of the Black vote. In 1964 Goldwater only got about twenty percent. It's been declining ever since. But why did Goldwater, who was not racist, get far less Black votes than Nixon? Steele briefly mentions the Goldwater debacle. Goldwater opposed the 1964 Civil Rights bill in its entirety. A good part of the bill certainly was flawed, but when Goldwater rejected the bill (he later said he made a mistake), that doomed the GOP in the minds of many Black voters. The GOP became the party of evil, white racists who wanted to keep minorities down.

That perception, wrong as it is, has remained in the consciousness of Black americans ever since. If today Republicans got forty percent of the Black vote, there would be virtually no Democrats in congress.

200 posted on 03/16/2009 10:43:07 AM PDT by driftless2
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