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Obama Requires YOU to SERVE, H.R.1388, "The Give Act" to reform the National Service Laws
The Library of Congress THOMAS ^ | March 14, 2009 | joygrace

Posted on 03/14/2009 2:03:28 PM PDT by joygrace

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To: TYVets
We do, it is called TAXES!

That is exactly what I'm talking about. Think of the founding of the country, people risking everything to establish freedom for the country. Valley Forge, the spirit of the pioneers, the greatest generation standing rock solid against the nazis.

Now we have some sap thinking that all you have to do is send in your tax return.

861 posted on 03/15/2009 10:27:17 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have elected the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" to be POTUS.)
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To: IrishPennant; All
THEY WORK FOR US - never forget...let this be a mantra.

Words to remember indeed. Somehow we need to remind BHO and Congress. Collectively, we have power in our voice and our words to make them listen. Probably more Power than many realize sometimes.
862 posted on 03/15/2009 10:29:13 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: autumnraine
I’m going to be honest here, the silence has reaffirmed my belief in end days. That so many can seem so “koolaid” driven for lack of better cliche is startling.

"For this cause, God shall send them strong delusion, that they may believe a lie and be damned, that had no pleasure in the Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (2 Thess. 2:11-12)
863 posted on 03/15/2009 10:30:24 AM PDT by HotLead61 (Death as a Free Man is much preferred to "life" as a slave)
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To: Eva
:)

and of course, the catch all punishment would be called Catch 22

864 posted on 03/15/2009 10:31:48 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: HollyB; All
Interview with Rahm (then a Congressman) regarding his book “The Plan: Big Ideas For America”:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5632111156423668710

(go to 5:22 for the Civilian Service part)

Emanuel: “Diversity is strength” “The Common Experience”

Communism: “Unity in diversity” “The Common Good”

865 posted on 03/15/2009 10:33:01 AM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I concede your point but still think you are failing to credit the communists with the ability they have shown numerous times.

yes 99.99% of our military would never think of shooting an innocent. yes the same people would never think to use their force upon American civilians.

It won’t come about overnight, it will be small steps accompanied with massive propaganda. For example the recent exercise in Iowa to search house to house for a ‘weapons dealer’. Those troops have no idea what they are really doing and are just following orders.

People with evil intent will seek out the more gullible, power hungry or whatever and will create their version of the SS or Gestapo. Next a specific class of people will be selected for persecution. This will help to unify the compliant and divide those who dissent. My guess is that it will be Christians or people who refused to accept the gay lifestyle. That’s how Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Chavez (he’s trying), Castro did it. Of course some were more efficient at killing.


866 posted on 03/15/2009 10:34:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: oldbrowser
Military personnel pay taxes are they saps?
867 posted on 03/15/2009 10:39:06 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: hiredhand
Well said....unity and a common goal are what it is going to take to make this stand.

The shot heard around the world IMO will initially be suppressed by the media but will get out with todays technology.

One thing to keep in mind is the importance of a short wave radio.

It would be too easy for information to be controlled and outright eliminated...without communications we would virtually be "in the dark"

868 posted on 03/15/2009 10:40:06 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush - and zer0 has already failed)
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To: joygrace

We should hit the major intersections in all cities across the country with protest signs. Every single day, someone different with a different sign. Coordinate it per city. Shouldn’t be hard to do. Good grief people. We gotta start somewhere.


869 posted on 03/15/2009 10:47:25 AM PDT by bergmeid (2012 - time to undo every last bit of legislation that was signed into law by Ozero)
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To: azishot
"..snip...I don’t think the Republicans have the guts to “expose Obama to the public.” They’re (Senators) interested in working with him, not stopping him."

So far they haven't shown us "the guts to expose Obama." You are absolutely right. I agree.

They all sing that same tune, "we want to work with the President." I confess, I get angry when I read or listen to another Republican sing this same song-and-dance nonsense. It is beyond my comprehension. Where is there courage?

The don't get it or maybe they do. Maybe it is just a one-party system afterall. I still want to hold their feet to the fire.

I want it to be at least uncomfortable for them to continue rowing their socialist boat "gently down the stream" singing to themselves "merrily, merrily, merrily, merriliy, Life is but a dream."
870 posted on 03/15/2009 10:48:07 AM PDT by joygrace (Veritas vincit)
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To: TYVets

Well, depending on circumstances it could also be termed, weight control.


871 posted on 03/15/2009 10:48:54 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: joygrace

“If anyone else has another take please share?”

Okay. It makes me really, really sick...and furious.


872 posted on 03/15/2009 10:50:07 AM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: SteamShovel
"Revolution from Above"
Is that like brain cancer?

LOL! It is where the existing government radically changes the forms and structures of society, instead of when the populace radically changes the government. Please review your notes from that history course with the alternate title "Revolutions Compared". Don't forget that well written tome "The Coming of the French Revolution" by Lefevbre.

873 posted on 03/15/2009 10:50:45 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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To: driftdiver
I concede your point but still think you are failing to credit the communists with the ability they have shown numerous times

I would never forget the power of the commies but this is different in my view. So far we have the ability to stop what we see is occuring the queston is will we. I have faith that we will. You scenario is entirely plausable too and at some point it will be too much, I hope.

874 posted on 03/15/2009 10:51:58 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (FUBO, he says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush - and zer0 has already failed)
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To: oldbrowser

The difference is those people risked everything to establish freedom because they WANTED to do it. No one FORCED them to do it. I do not think that the only thing I owe my country is my taxes. I also dont believe my country should FORCE me to do anything except obey the law. Forced service to the country will not cause patriotism any more than rape causes one to fall in love with the rapist.


875 posted on 03/15/2009 10:53:48 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: joygrace

“They all sing that same tune, “we want to work with the President.”

Does that mean that they are cowards or traitors—or cowardly traitors? Traitorous cowards? Vile scum? Exactly what could prompt a human being to utter those words, when the president is Chairman Maobama?


876 posted on 03/15/2009 10:57:50 AM PDT by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: joygrace

I’ll Freepmail you. I don’t have much in the way of specifics right now, still caffeinating, but the red text at the bottom of the Posting window still applies.

God bless you for posting this.


877 posted on 03/15/2009 11:00:29 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Father we call forth thy gracious intercession! Help us in this hour of challenge to America.
amen


878 posted on 03/15/2009 11:01:39 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: joygrace

In general, I’d recommend that everyone read and really understand everything Alinksy wrote. If they haven’t read Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead, get to it. They’re both in audiobooks, too.

Join the 912 Project (www.912project.com)

Roar early. Don’t wait. This is like a slow-motion burglary. Who gets robbed or mugged? People who *appear to be unaware, unarmed, unprotected, unwilling to fight, and who lack confidence.

Be flexible and adaptable.


879 posted on 03/15/2009 11:03:51 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: joygrace

Osama can kiss my royal white ass.
No more need be said.


880 posted on 03/15/2009 11:04:47 AM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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