Posted on 03/11/2009 6:27:20 AM PDT by Doctor13
maybe if Kosovo stopped wearing the fake mustache and beard...
Unless they are from Northern Italy, Italians look much more like Turks than Albanians.
dodo, servus is a latin word. Slav and slave (sclavus) were used interchangeably (rightly or wrongly)
OK everyone, another update on this Kosovo re-Christianization effort by overseas Serbs in Australia/Canada/Britain/USA (build/guard churches in Kosovo, snap photos of any anti-church vandalism by Kosovars or NATO troops). This one particularly important:
1. One of the movement starters— apparently a Macedonian Christian in Canada who’s been involved (and actively dreads the Islamization of his own Balkan land)— has suggested a brilliant idea to help the re-Christianization:
Using the Christian (and Muslim-rejecting) Albanian national hero, Skanderbeg, to help our cause by Christianizing Kosovo’s Albanians, so it becomes clear that this is not anti-Albanian, but protection from Islamofascism.
I hadn’t known this originally myself, but Skanderbeg— who’s something like the Albanian equivalent of George Washington for Americans— was a tough SOB who fought the Ottoman Turks harder than almost any other Balkan leader. Even more importantly— he was kidnapped by the Turks as a child and forcibly converted to Islam, then made an Ottoman general (like the janissaries), but in a subsequent Balkan battle, Skanderbeg renounced Islam and embraced Christianity. He then led Christian forces in crushing defeat of the Ottoman Turks!
The beautiful irony is— the revered national hero of the very people that the Globalists are using to turn Kosovo into an al-Qaeda hotspot (the Muslim Kosovo Albanians, since Skanderbeg is a hero for all Albanians, most of whom are actually Christian), is also one of the greatest and most vigorous defenders of Christian Europe from Muslim invasion.
And even better, because he himself returned to Christianity from Islam— something that Wahhabis in particular bitterly persecute their own populations about— he can serve as a comforting example to Kosovar Albanians, encouraging them to return to the Christian faith just as Skanderbeg did, and share the land with their Serbian Christian sisters and brothers. (Amazingly, this also seems to work well with Bosnian Muslims, where it’s gradually been employed.)
Apparently, this all got started by some very smart missionaries working in Belgium, who used the Skanderberg example to convert thousands of Kosovo Muslim Albanians who had been resident there, to Skanderbeg’s Christianity. (Again, it was also applied to many Bosnian Muslims, with similar success.) It’s since been spreading around the region, and the Kosovo re-Christianization movement founders then picked up on it. Truly brilliant.
2. One other detail on the movement’s founding— the reason there’s no Website for it yet, is that it only got started last year, and doesn’t even have a name yet. As I mentioned, preceding the Kosovo re-Christianization effort, has been a similar effort to encourage the Greek diaspora (also in Australia, Britain, Canada and the United States) to re-settle back in Greece, Cyprus and other Greek regions, to help rebuild the Greek Orthodox Church structure and to start business in the greater Hellenic region.
In fact, both of these were preceded by an even earlier such Diasporic return effort that began in 2008, to encourage the Armenian community in California (as well as in Britain and Canada) to resettle in Armenia and to help rebuild its ravaged economy. (Even this seems to have been inspired in part by prior efforts to encourage Diaspora Italian, Swedish and German Christians to resettle in their ancestral lands.)
Obviously, the Armenian effort is a purely economic one, not a re-Christianization, but it began in the wake of an analogous betrayal of a Christian people by an American President: The shameful, appeasing capitulation of Condi Rice, George W. Bush and the US Congress last year on the Armenian genocide issue.
This may be the one instance that I ever agree with Nancy Pelosi (who was one of its sponsors apparently), but there was a resolution to demand recognition of the Armenian genocide in the US Congress which was gaining broad support. But then, Condoleezza Rice— whom many conservative bloggers have rightfully suspected as being a pro-Muslim 5th-columnist— threw a temper tantrum about how it might offend a few Turks. Then George W. Bush dutifully licked Istanbul’s boots and pushed Congress to reject the resolution.
It was one of the most shameful betrayals in US history of our hard-working, patriotic Armenian-American community, and it so incensed many of our Armenians that they even renounced their US citizenship and moved to Armenia. Many Armenians in Canada, the UK and Australia soon followed. (As I said, Dhimmi Britain will soon be under Shari’a Law and frankly, I’m almost hoping that they fall apart sooner rather than later, so they do less damage to Serbs and other Christians as they wallow more and more in their Dhimmitude.)
Ironically, France has stood up the strongest for the Armenian people and demanded official recognition of the crimes committed against them, with the Berlin government soon following (though in more muted fashion).
I guess this is just a reminder that where the rubber meets the road, you never know who your friends and foes will be. In this case, Bill and Hillary Clinton (who are always the foes), George W. Bush and Condi Rice are the foes, while Nancy Pelosi (of all people) and Paris and Berlin (of all countries) are standing up for the long-persecuted Christians. Blind squirrels and acorns.
Here's what I know and it isn't propaganda:
1. The Serbs are no great "friends to Iran". In fact, Iran supplied the arms to the Bosnian Muslims for use against the Serbs in Bosnia, with Croat help and US consent while the Arms Embargo was supposed to be going on.
2. The Bosnian Muslims ARE very tight with Iran and not just in trading with them.
3. Now Albania is inviting Iran to invest in Albania & Kosovo
It isn't a big leap to guess that Serbia is establishing trade with Iran as a strategy to try and balance that threat.
Hey cuckoo fool-— you are such a load of laughs. You need to get out more....
...and watch the blond and blue eyed 'Greeks' ?
What is pissing everyone off here is that namelessfool is a "big P" propagandist and he is sure that you are his "best buddy" because you are agreeing with him.
You can tell by the way nameless showed up 3 weeks ago & just recycles the same crap over and over on the same theme with the same photos -- "Serbs are Nazis", "Serbs are evil", "Serbs were Turkish Collaborators" -- none of which is objectively true by ANY stretch of the imagination or any honest point of view.
I called him on the Cosic lie, provided proof from the same link he used and he didn't even respond, just kept posting the exact same slapdash BS lie over & over. He isn't even good at it, so I hope that they aren't paying him much.
My family is mixed Montenegrin & Croat. In my youth, I almost married an American of Albanian/Croat descent who was Orthodox Christian, so I am not a bigot or a hater just based on ethnicity.
But the people of the Balkans have a much better idea of what Islam is than most Americans ever will, and how to deal with it. Let them deal with their Muslim issues, and we need to deal with ours.
And who started the 'Nazi' and Turk chain, wasn't it you? Be careful what you start, you may not like your side.
Did Olivera Despina married the Turkish Sultan?
Did the Serbian Church approve that?
Did Lazar’s son fight for the Turks against Christians?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Lazarevi%C4%87
Did Serbs (Brankovic) betray the Christians in the second Kosovo battle?
Is Lazarevic a Serbian saint?
Name one other Balkan nation that helped the Turks more than Serbs to take over the Balkans.
Enough for now
And I do enjoy deleting those Private E-mail you send unread, Bonly-boy.
So why did Hitler have to delay his invasion of Russia and invade Yugoslavia, including bombing Belgrade, eh Bonly-boy?
Be careful, if rude-little-boy and nameless-fool (actually, his original screen name is Ronly Bonly Jones) will say harsh, though illogical, things about you if they believe you support the Christian Serbs in any way!
Brave Servs spent 11 days looking for a German to surrender to. How many Germans were killed again by ‘brave’ Serbs? 200! Ask Bokababe, she knows that, and how 300,000 soldiers surrendered.
Which puts the Serbs far ahead of the the Croats, Albanians, or ‘Bosniacs’ who joined the Nazis on the first day they saw them. Yes, the Serbs were overwhelmed but their fight cost Hilter months and put his army into the middle of the Russian winter wearing summer clothes.
The end of the story is that the Nazis and you Quislings lost.
Oh Boo-freakin’-hoo, Bonly-boy.
Nothing else was going in the world during WWII, just Serbia delaying Hitler, no other nations or events had any impact :-). Does Lying about 1389, about 'Jerusalem,' about "fighting Turks," 'fighting Nazis' etc etc make you feel any better as a nation?
Lying as a virtue:
“We lie to deceive ourselves, to console others, we lie for mercy, we lie to fight fear, to encourage ourselves, to hide our and somebody else’s misery. We lie for love and honesty. We lie because of freedom. Lying is a trait of our patriotism and the proof of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively and inventively."
If lying and being delusional makes you sleep better at night, go ahead, but don't be surprised when others bring you back down to mother earth. The private message I sent had to do with Timur the Lame (TimurLame,) no big deal.
Man, observing that Serbia signed an agreement with Iran really pissed you off, didn't it? LOL
Yeah, I’m no one’s buddy on this thread, and don’t care to be. There’s enough man-love going on here.
Right. It's a valid assumption to make (certainly as valid as any other). Whatever the reason, it flies in the face of the "Serbia against Islam" meme . . . and it shows, because people started yammering about Bush, Putin, and anything else they could to change the subject.
You win the Christiane Amanpour Award for Anti-Serb Propaganda!
Getting called on our ties with Saudi Arabia scored some points, I see. Poor boy, go tell mama all about it.
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