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To: jmaroneps37
Catholic hospitals should simply quit accepting federal money.

While I do not agree with any of Obama's rules, I do believe that this type of thing should be a teaching moment for entities which accept federal funds but have disagreements with the strings attached to those funds. Find a way to cut the cord.

3 posted on 03/02/2009 5:56:29 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: pnh102

They can’t. Every hospital in the US receives some kind of federal money.


5 posted on 03/02/2009 5:59:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: pnh102

Catholic hospitals should simply and accept federal money and tell obama sure we will only abort black babies wonder how well that would play with the word twister obama?


12 posted on 03/02/2009 6:03:13 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: pnh102

It isn’t that the government supports them with money, it is that the government supports poor people with Medicaid and then there is Medicare for retirees, all considered government money. So if they can’t accept those they might as well close because they’d just have to become expensive private hospitals that couldn’t help the people they were created to help.


17 posted on 03/02/2009 6:05:33 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: pnh102

>>While I do not agree with any of Obama’s rules, I do believe that this type of thing should be a teaching moment for entities which accept federal funds but have disagreements with the strings attached to those funds. Find a way to cut the cord. <<

Maybe I don’t understand.
What kind of federal money are they taking?

If it is Medicaid, then what you are saying is that the Hospitals should treat patients for free. Because they are required by law to treat anyone who walks into their emergency room. A woman in labor, a kid with a broken arm, or a drug overdose, they are required to stabilize that patient or treat if life threatening.

If they don’t take Medicaid, they get nothing.

I was the Office Manager for the head Psych in a Cleveland hospital. His treatment cost 120.00 an hour, but because he was the Head Psych, he was passed all Medicaid patients. There was a huge amount of paperwork connected to them and we saw 60.00 on each. After they were stabilized, we could pass them onto the Charity Hospital for long term treatment (which was a Catholic Hospital, btw) Many times, a slip in the paperwork (or a whim from the government) meant that we had to resubmit with more paperwork and after the third try, we let it go and wrote it off.

How much free work should be required by a Catholic Hospital? I say, close them. My check to my parish pays for them. Let the Medicaid patients go somewhere else.


24 posted on 03/02/2009 6:07:58 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: pnh102

You can’t cut the cord in health care. Medicare and Medicaide are federal programs.


25 posted on 03/02/2009 6:08:37 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: pnh102
Catholic hospitals should simply quit accepting federal money.

If they were allowed to stop accepting Medicaid PATIENTS as well as Medicaid DOLLARS, that would be fine. As it is, they'll be treating them for free, which means they WILL be closing, either in protest or in bankruptcy.

28 posted on 03/02/2009 6:09:52 AM PST by nina0113 (Hugh Akston is my hero.)
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To: pnh102
Catholic hospitals should simply quit accepting federal money.

Now you know why Obama wants to limit the deduction for charitable contributions: to force hospitals to take federal money when charitable contributions dry up.

I can now say it freely: Obama is pure EVIL.

32 posted on 03/02/2009 6:11:13 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: pnh102

This is exactly why I disagree with government funded faith-based initiatives. It steals our right to practice out faith.


38 posted on 03/02/2009 6:19:29 AM PST by ShandaLear (Where's My Stuff???!!!)
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To: pnh102

Medicare is federal money.


51 posted on 03/02/2009 6:28:35 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: pnh102

Yes, just refuse the money.


66 posted on 03/02/2009 6:44:16 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: pnh102

That means NO Medicare, and NO medicaid, NO resident teaching money. That will close the doors of any hospital. But it’s an empty theat by the Feds because if the Catholic hospitals called the bluff, and actually shut their doors for a few days, the message would be felt loud and clear by a huge number of “Obots” who will be screaming for their free health care to return.


78 posted on 03/02/2009 6:57:00 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: pnh102
Your solution is not possible
federal money has tainted all aspects of the health care system

Should Catholic hospitals stop accepting MEDICARE and MEDICAID patients? federal money

Should Catholic hospitals not be able to hire any staff who funded their education with a federally guaranteed loan?

Should Catholic hospitals and their staff not participate in any research that is funded by federal grants?

Should Catholic hospitals not do any business with any vendors (drug companies etc) who have federal contracts or who do business with the federal govt or use federal money to subsidize research or production?

Should Catholic hospitals give up all tax treatment as nonprofits and begin to pay federal taxes? oh wait- that is funding mammon so he can shut you down ...

Should Catholic hospitals just give up medical facilities and medical education at its institutions and stop accepting applicants who need federal loans t pay for their education?

That's where it is heading.

Interesting that abortion is LEGAL and available.
So why obama’s need to have the FEDERAL GOVT make moral conscience ILLEGAL? Didn't bamster say that decision about the beginning of human life was ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE? Now he decides to USE HIS PAY GRADE to make the moral decision for everyone?

93 posted on 03/02/2009 7:18:54 AM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: pnh102
Catholic hospitals should simply quit accepting federal money.

I wonder - is taking a patient on medicare considered "accepting federal money"? I don't know - but if it is, they might really have to close.

178 posted on 03/02/2009 12:52:55 PM PST by ducdriver (Judica me, Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta. (Ps. 42))
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