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The Great Solvent North (Canadian banks "soundest in the world")
NY Times ^ | Published: February 27, 2009 | THERESA TEDESCO

Posted on 03/02/2009 4:17:10 AM PST by dennisw

Edited on 03/02/2009 4:46:49 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

HAS the world turned upside down? America, the capital of capitalism, is pondering nationalizing a handful of banks. Meanwhile, Canada, whose banking system had long been notorious for its stodgy practices and government coddling, is now being celebrated for those very qualities.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: opinion
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1 posted on 03/02/2009 4:17:10 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Canada is too socialist for me but they got the banking part right. Our bankers and Wall Street’s investment bankers simply cannot be trusted with large sums of money. Greed takes over and they run wild. Dragging down our economy and being bailed out because they are too big to fail

During the Great Depression there were no failures of Canadian banks


2 posted on 03/02/2009 4:20:53 AM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: Candor7

ping pong


3 posted on 03/02/2009 4:24:56 AM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: dennisw

IF the Canadian banks were forced to give out bad mortgages under threat of penalties, would they be in such good shape?

Perhaps there’s more involved than this opinion piece is stating.


4 posted on 03/02/2009 4:24:59 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring

Excellent point. Maybe we can send Frank, Dodd, Pelosi et. al. up there?


5 posted on 03/02/2009 4:29:12 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Gondring
IF the Canadian banks were forced to give out bad mortgages under threat of penalties, would they be in such good shape?

I guess they are just a bunch of hard hearted socialists up there plus no minorities to speak of to ladle out affirmative action mortgages to

But Lehman was leveraged at 30-to-1 as it packaged CMOs at breakneck speed. No Canadian bank was allowed this kind of leverage. An easy bet is they didn't get involved much in derivatives and credit default swaps either

6 posted on 03/02/2009 4:30:14 AM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: tgusa
Excellent point. Maybe we can send Frank, Dodd, Pelosi et. al. up there?

Maybe we can send them to jail where they belong.

7 posted on 03/02/2009 4:32:47 AM PST by Sal (The Mr. Cool mask has slipped and exposed the naked face of the Chicago Street Thug.)
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To: dennisw
The Canadian government screwed up their healthcare system, our government screwed up our banking system, and is about to kill healthcare.

Both Canada and the US would be much better off with free-market versions of these institutions.

This is America for crying out loud.

8 posted on 03/02/2009 4:51:57 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama; LowCountryJoe

This is an interesting column, once you get past the author’s premise that more (Canadian-type) federal regulation would’ve saved American banks from the subprime debacle. “What do you call assassins who accuse assassins?” (Colonel Kurtz).


9 posted on 03/02/2009 5:35:42 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

They don’t need mortgages on igloos and log cabins.


10 posted on 03/02/2009 5:40:55 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: fanfan

For your list.


11 posted on 03/02/2009 5:42:29 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Talk like that would get a stubby bounced off your head back in my college days.


12 posted on 03/02/2009 5:43:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: dennisw

Canada is said to have a small number of large banks. Quite the opposite, in the USA, it is our small and medium banks which are strongest. A regional bank in our area, M&T bank, actually just reported a profit increase for 2008

Our large banks, who work hand-in-hand with the Fed and Gov’t already, are subject to strong political pressure already, as the recent crisis shows. I am sure that is something the NY Times article neglects to mention about Canadian banks.


13 posted on 03/02/2009 5:44:33 AM PST by PGR88
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To: 1rudeboy

Yeah, bunch of hosers.


14 posted on 03/02/2009 5:47:17 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Havoc has been back since September. Or was it April?)
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To: dennisw; 1rudeboy; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; Squawk 8888; ..
Thanks for the ping, 1 rude boy.


15 posted on 03/02/2009 6:13:09 AM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL.


16 posted on 03/02/2009 6:18:51 AM PST by fanfan (God, Bless America, please.)
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To: dennisw
Don't be such a myopic rube.

A small handful of banks in the US who WERE being ruined by government policies that encouraged wrecklessness. 'Greed' had nothing to do with it.

Further, no bank is 'too big to fail' (or go into receivership). That is a political decision made by politicians the foolish electorate has chosen.

MOST banks in the US are doing pretty well and it's up to you to keep an eye on your bank and not just put the blinders on.

17 posted on 03/02/2009 8:13:01 AM PST by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Gondring

That’s a very good point but the banks in Europe and Asia got into trouble because they bought too much American sub-prime paper. The Canadian banks were also hit by that but their exposure was a lot lower, IOW they didn’t gamble more than they could afford to lose.


18 posted on 03/02/2009 8:14:37 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Squawk 8888

Right.
They were more conservative. Not faux-conservative.


19 posted on 03/02/2009 8:17:00 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mbraynard

I prefer the Canadian way of banking any day. I don’t see any derivatives or CMOs up there. If they have them then it is very small


20 posted on 03/02/2009 8:21:17 AM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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