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To: LottieDah; Red Steel

The “birth certificate” is a red herring; he probably has a forged long form birth certificate (38 entries for information, including hospital and attending physician) all ready to go.

The real issue — natural born Citizen. Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of baby’s birth AND baby must be born on U.S. soil for their child to be a natural born citizen. Parents can be naturalized, native born, or natural born, but they must be U.S. citizens for their child to be eligible to become President of the U.S.A.

President Obama’s father, a British citizen, registered his son as a British citizen shortly after birth. Hence, Obama II is not a natural born citizen. If (and I use that word hesitently) he was born in Hawaii, he can claim to be a “native born” citizen but ineligible to run for President.

FYI — records from Occidental recently came to light that prove a student from Indonesia named Barry Soetoro accepted financial aid as a foreign student.

When living in Indonesia with his mom and stepdad, Obama was registered at a school as Barry Soetoro, Indonesian citizen and Muslim.

Here are excellent analyses of the “natural born Citizen” question.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/
“Natural Born Citizens: Or How to Beat a Subject to Death with a Stick”, by Judah Benjamin, is a good place to start.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-1/
“Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, Part 1”, by Judah Benjamin

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/divided-loyalties-pt-2/
“Divided Loyalties, Obama’s Eligibility Problem, Part 2”, by Judah Benjamin


31 posted on 03/01/2009 2:04:42 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: SatinDoll
The “birth certificate” is a red herring; he probably has a forged long form birth certificate (38 entries for information, including hospital and attending physician) all ready to go.

Maybe, but Obama would have to switch it with the one they have on file in Hawaii which needs conspirators to break in or do an inside job. Hawaii may also have backup certified copies of all birth certificates and other supporting documenting evidence in another location, which would have to be taken into consideration.

I agree. Obama is not a natural born citizen since he inherited British/Kenyan citizenship at birth.

39 posted on 03/01/2009 2:42:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: SatinDoll
What's further curious is Obama is ready to cut a deal; "TO TALK 'GLOBAL NEW DEAL' WITH UK PM. Obama knows that the UK may have evidence of his Kenyan birth so he bribes them by throwing money at the UK to keep quit about his origins.

He has courted the Hawaiian governor the same way by berrying gifts.

See the pattern.

40 posted on 03/01/2009 3:00:48 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: SatinDoll

“FYI — records from Occidental recently came to light that prove a student from Indonesia named Barry Soetoro accepted financial aid as a foreign student.”

everything else you’ve stated is fine- not this.
There was an account that a Soetoro was going to high school some conceivably doable distance from Occidental College at same time and this hser (who indeed was under some foreign aid help and Indonesian) was BS auditing HS classes to make entry into Columbia. Turns out it wasn’t so. His name as I recall was Mohammed Soetoro.

If you have something concrete to make your case please post.


79 posted on 03/01/2009 7:46:12 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: SatinDoll

FYI — records from Occidental recently came to light that prove a student from Indonesia named Barry Soetoro accepted financial aid as a foreign student.
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When this happen????? Link?


83 posted on 03/01/2009 9:17:09 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: SatinDoll

“The “birth certificate” is a red herring...”

Don’t think so.

The “Natural Born Citizen” psuedo-Lawyer surrogates for BO have protested too much about that.

First rule of Political Damage Control is if there is bad information on a Politician the Politicians must put said bad information out himself to get control of the story.

What has BO done? He has tried to hide his Birth Certificate.

Now, obviously BO has forged Birth Certificates but it is also obvious that he and his lawyers are afraid that the forgeries are not good enough to deceive even the lower courts let alone SCOTUS.


95 posted on 03/02/2009 6:36:34 AM PST by FreeManN (www.ObamaCrimes.info & www.usjf.net)
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To: SatinDoll
Here are excellent analyses of the “natural born Citizen” question.

Judah Benjamin. Another anonymous hack on the Internet along with "P.A. Madison."

Why is it all anyone can seem to ever point to are anonymous hacks on the Internet? What, there have never been any real constitutional scholars who have ever written anything on the subject?


154 posted on 03/04/2009 9:01:26 PM PST by Michael Michael
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