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To: STARWISE; penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; ...
The opportunity for the White House? It's one of which some conservatives are sharply aware — that the Birthers may discredit Obama's more mainstream enemies.

Hear that birthers? By advancing your crackpot theories, you are helping the enemy. That's why I and many other conservatives are taking the time to debunk your nonsense.

"At some level, they're not that bad to have around because it reminds people that under the mainstream conservative press there's this bubbling up of really irrational hatred for the guy," said former Clinton White House press secretary Jake Siewert.

Why, oh why, dear birthers, do you want to give the enemy this kind of amunition?

6 posted on 03/01/2009 8:31:21 AM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

This rant brought to you by the same cowards who thought John McCain was just wonderfull because the media loved him.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 8:36:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: curiosity

BS, you are just falling for the propaganda spin machine.

The DNC/MSM seeks to discredit any peeceived threat from the Right, be it Right to Lifers, George Allen, Sarah Palin, “homophobes” who like NASCAR, and on and on.

people shouldnt compromise their principles because they are afraid of the spin machine.

Where is the authentic birth certificate, and why hasnt it been publicly produced?


9 posted on 03/01/2009 8:36:16 AM PST by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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Why, oh why, dear birthers, do you want to give the enemy this kind of amunition?

Why don't you take your little commie technique of crushing free thought through insults and go join the other mindless people in the Dem sheep pen. If you have no more freedom of thought than that then you must love commie fascism.

Your accusations and denial are infantile at best. I've seen school yard bullies who can intimidate better than you. What is it to you if people ask questions? They have every right to do so and Obama is hiding something so you are left with nothing more than childish intimidation. Pitiful.

16 posted on 03/01/2009 8:43:06 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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Why, oh why, dear birthers, do you want to give the enemy this kind of amunition?

Well, the left worries "of really irrational hatred for the guy". But my hatred for him is quite rational. My hatred for BHO has nothing to do with where he was born, who his parents were or what color/colors he is. However, the white liberal press/academia/pols who sycophantically support BHO solely on the basis of his race would be a bit surprised to look into my soul and realize how much greater my hatred is of them.

19 posted on 03/01/2009 8:49:02 AM PST by douginthearmy (Julio is the face of the new Amerika. Time to start over.)
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"Why, oh why, dear birthers.."

Eat it.


53 posted on 03/01/2009 9:30:30 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: curiosity

Well, if you bother to look into the known facts (which do not include any of Obama’s actual records, since he is concealing virtually all of them), then you would know that this article is filled with lies.

The COLB on the internet is a clear fake.

The Hawaiian officials who have commented on the matter, whose official statements are available on line, have NOT said that Obama was born in Hawaii, only that they have his original birth certificate and that no one is allowed access to it without Obama’s permission.

As for Vincent Foster, anyone who believes he committed suicide clearly has not looked into the matter. Who murdered him, and where, is an open question, but he didn’t get into Fort Marcy Park on his own steam, he didn’t have a gun when he was first discovered, he didn’t bleed as would be expected on the ground where he was found, and his shoes showed no traces of his having walked there.

Also, all the x-rays (like Ron Brown’s) somehow disappeared out of a safe. And the “suicide note” was completely unconvincing.

Bush lied? I think not.

In other words, this whole article is a series of lies from one end to another.

Do we KNOW all the circumstances of Obama’s birth and citizenship? No, because he refuses to release his birth certificate, passports, college records, or anything else that might throw some light on the real facts. But we do know that he is a serial liar. There’s plenty of evidence of that.


66 posted on 03/01/2009 9:46:08 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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reality check.

the founders of the country thought this such a serious issue, that it is defined in article 2 of the Constitution.

next, most presidential candidates have long careers and had been vetted along the way. 0bama has not.

the potential for crisis if this were true DEMANDS that we verify that the potential for a Constitutional crisis does not exist.

and lastly... it’s only a birth certificate. john mccain was asked the same question and provided the details immediately. 0bama provided his attorneys card.

it would take less then one day to resolve the issue, yet it continues to be obstructed.

the more this is fought, the more guilty he looks.

if you don’t understand that, then sit down and stay out of the way.


77 posted on 03/01/2009 9:57:49 AM PST by sten
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If you are so curious, curiosity, why not give us the facts as requested, rather then telling us we aren't deserving of the truth? -- because of potential political fallout.

Personally, I don't adhere to these theories nor do I disbelieve what has been posited about Obama's status. But if the theories are so "crackpot," as you state, then give us the facts that debunk them. Until then, I'll continue to show interest in why Obama and Co. refuse to supply evidence on his birth location, his physician, and the hospital, with facts...

81 posted on 03/01/2009 10:03:59 AM PST by vox_freedom ("If God be for us, who is against us?" -- Romans 8:31)
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Hear that birthers? By advancing your crackpot theories, you are helping the enemy. That's why I and many other conservatives are taking the time to debunk your nonsense.

Hahahahahaha!

Like the 'crackpots' who exposed Alger Hiss, time will tell.

83 posted on 03/01/2009 10:08:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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Nice try.
I do not buy it.

If you are embarrassed by people asking questions, you barely deserve to be an American, and you are certainly NOT a “conservative”.

Obama has admitted, in Court papers, that turning over these documents would be an “embarrassment” -— do some research!

Now the problem might be paternity, and not geography.

However, we are talking about a man who became famous, because of two books that he wrote. If those “autobiographies” are complete frauds, that alone raises questions, does it not?

You are a coward.

Or? You are an Obama bot troll.

95 posted on 03/01/2009 10:27:53 AM PST by Kansas58
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The man is a usurper to the office of the President of the United States.

Does this not bother you?

***Obama’s lawyers in these motions, argued that revealing the information (birth certificate, citizenship in other countries, etc.) would “cause a defined and serious injury” to Obama and/or the DNC. They say revealing these documents raises a “legitimate privacy concern” and the above mentioned risk that “particularly serious embarrassment will result from turning over the requested documentation.” ***

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/2018399:BlogPost:10858


112 posted on 03/01/2009 10:42:24 AM PST by Velveeta
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I think calling one side “birthers” is a personal attack so I’ll just hit the abuse button.

Of course, since there’s no real standard in place, it’s a hit-or-miss on whether it gets tagged as abuse by the mods.


141 posted on 03/01/2009 11:15:29 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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Hear that birthers? By advancing your crackpot theories, you are helping the enemy. That's why I and many other conservatives are taking the time to debunk your nonsense.

Can I suggest an alternative to debunking the birthers? I think they're every bit the crackpots that you do, but why waste energy on that? Instead, just ignore the birthers and spend your precious time exposing the socialist policies that are going to have life-long consequences for every American alive today.

162 posted on 03/01/2009 11:44:05 AM PST by Melas
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"Why, oh why, dear birthers, do you want to give the enemy this kind of amunition? "

It is people like YOU that are the true 'enemy'.

280 posted on 03/01/2009 7:18:08 PM PST by Godebert
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