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To: DouglasKC
If you're arguing from a states rights perspective it does. To be consistent abortion, pot and porn should all be states rights issues.

Don't most people concede that if Roe v. Wade was overturned it would again give states the right to regulate abortion? This is a Web site where most if not all are pro-life which means they take the next logical step that it should be banned by all states. Or maybe I'm reading everyone wrong and they want congress to regulate based on the commerce clause. I prefer the state's to have more power, but that hasn't been the popular reading of the constitution for 70 years.

Pornography is to a certain degree regulated by the state. Oklahoma has some pretty strict laws regulating the sale of pornography. Of course all that means is within a mile of every border there is an adult video store. It can't be entirely a state issue because it is also a first amendment issue. The first amendment has been incorporated and applies to the states. They are free to regulate as long as it doesn't violate the first amendment, or as long as everyone in the state is fine with with the regulation and doesn't bring suit.

In the case of medical marijuana it is a state's rights issue to most people because it is used within a state and doesn't leave the state. At least in theory of course. The Supreme Court ruled differently and so that is the law of the land. If there were legalization it would not be a state's rights issue as it would most definitely fall under the commerce clause. Presumably the state's would get some say in regulation within their borders the same as with alcohol.

So you concede it's dangerous? If not then why have strict laws for abuse? Why not let minors have it? Why educate against it? And if it's so dangerous why legitimize by legalizing it?

Driving a car is dangerous. I would say per capita much more dangerous than smoking marijuana. We legitimize it by not making driving illegal. Yet it is still regulated by maximum speed limits, minimum speed limits, lower age limits, etc. I'm sure you know the rules of the road. Life is dangerous. Government can't and shouldn't protect us from every danger in life. If the danger is faced by one person they should be free to decide to take it on. It is only when the risk to society is great and outweighs people's right to liberty that government should step in. I see no evidence that the risk to society posed by marijuana is enough to justify prohibition. Especially when so many people seem to be helped by using marijuana as a pain killer.
286 posted on 02/28/2009 10:18:04 PM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Mr. Blonde
Don't most people concede that if Roe v. Wade was overturned it would again give states the right to regulate abortion? This is a Web site where most if not all are pro-life which means they take the next logical step that it should be banned by all states. Or maybe I'm reading everyone wrong and they want congress to regulate based on the commerce clause. I prefer the state's to have more power, but that hasn't been the popular reading of the constitution for 70 years.

I used to think that way. But if something is really horribly wrong, like abortion, then letting a state do it reflects on the whole country. It's like slavery. We didn't say "Well, it's okay if SOME states have slavery because it's a state right."

It can't be entirely a state issue because it is also a first amendment issue. The first amendment has been incorporated and applies to the states.

That's the problem. It's not a first amendment issue. Clever leftists removed morality and ethics from government and then argued that it was. The first amendment is in our constitution primarily because of political speech. They didn't look down the road and envision an America who's ideal expression of freedom was to show every conceivable expression of sexuality.

In the case of medical marijuana it is a state's rights issue to most people because it is used within a state and doesn't leave the state.

Slavery, abortion, drugs, porn. Putting leftist propaganda aside, they're all harmful to our nation.

Driving a car is dangerous.Life is dangerous. Government can't and shouldn't protect us from every danger in life.

Okay, you concede that there is danger in smoking marijuana. Got it. And absent morality you could make the case that government can't make any laws.

Once that the risk to society posed by marijuana is enough to justify prohibition. Especially when so many people seem to be helped by using marijuana as a pain killer.

They seem to like getting stoned. No surprise there. Getting stoned is why people smoke marijuana in the first place.

288 posted on 03/01/2009 6:58:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
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