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To: Mr. Blonde
Don't most people concede that if Roe v. Wade was overturned it would again give states the right to regulate abortion? This is a Web site where most if not all are pro-life which means they take the next logical step that it should be banned by all states. Or maybe I'm reading everyone wrong and they want congress to regulate based on the commerce clause. I prefer the state's to have more power, but that hasn't been the popular reading of the constitution for 70 years.

I used to think that way. But if something is really horribly wrong, like abortion, then letting a state do it reflects on the whole country. It's like slavery. We didn't say "Well, it's okay if SOME states have slavery because it's a state right."

It can't be entirely a state issue because it is also a first amendment issue. The first amendment has been incorporated and applies to the states.

That's the problem. It's not a first amendment issue. Clever leftists removed morality and ethics from government and then argued that it was. The first amendment is in our constitution primarily because of political speech. They didn't look down the road and envision an America who's ideal expression of freedom was to show every conceivable expression of sexuality.

In the case of medical marijuana it is a state's rights issue to most people because it is used within a state and doesn't leave the state.

Slavery, abortion, drugs, porn. Putting leftist propaganda aside, they're all harmful to our nation.

Driving a car is dangerous.Life is dangerous. Government can't and shouldn't protect us from every danger in life.

Okay, you concede that there is danger in smoking marijuana. Got it. And absent morality you could make the case that government can't make any laws.

Once that the risk to society posed by marijuana is enough to justify prohibition. Especially when so many people seem to be helped by using marijuana as a pain killer.

They seem to like getting stoned. No surprise there. Getting stoned is why people smoke marijuana in the first place.

288 posted on 03/01/2009 6:58:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
That's the problem. It's not a first amendment issue. Clever leftists removed morality and ethics from government and then argued that it was. The first amendment is in our constitution primarily because of political speech. They didn't look down the road and envision an America who's ideal expression of freedom was to show every conceivable expression of sexuality.

You can say that, but the Supreme Court including conservative justices disagrees. Personally, I'm more in favor of the widest reading possible of all of our rights. What is your ideal expression of freedom? I'm not saying pornography is, but I don't think that is true of a majority of Americans either.

What are the harms that pot poses to the nation? How are they greater than other substances/activities which are legal?

Okay, you concede that there is danger in smoking marijuana. Got it. And absent morality you could make the case that government can't make any laws.

I said all of life was dangerous, that doesn't mean the government has the right to regulate our life to eliminate those dangers for us. Government is present to help society flow and operate as smoothly as possible. It isn't there to protect us from ourselves. I don't think speeding laws are based in morality, but the government can still make them because it allows for the freer flow of people which helps our society.

Getting stoned is why people smoke marijuana in the first place.

Is this the only reason people take oxycontin, morphine, codeine etc?
293 posted on 03/01/2009 11:28:11 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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