Posted on 02/27/2009 8:34:48 AM PST by DouglasKC
You may have read that the Obama administration has altered United States government policy and has sanctioned "medical" marijuana by ending raids on "clinics" where "medical" marijuana is passed out.
The use of quotes in the paragraph above is deliberate. It's my view and the views of millions of conservatives that there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana...or at least in the way it's being presented to the public.
"Medical" marijuana is simply a term for pot being sold for profit under the guise that it helps a plethora of medical problems. The "clinics" are essentially drug dens that are attempting to gain a little more respectability. It has been the policy of the United States government to raid and shut down these clinics.
Now here's the problem. There are many so called conservatives that support these drug dens. They say that it's a states right issue. That this isn't a power delegated to the United States government.
Clearly this is a debatable point. For example I would offer that it's in the best interest of the country to ban something that is in the worst interest of the country. For example if we had a communist power develop a drug that would make our citizens lazy and unproductive then nobody would argue that we should allow this power to freely distribute this drug in the United States. There would be no hew and cry about "states rights".
But nonetheless there are those who have seized upon the issue of "medical" marijuana as the ultimate expression of states rights. That's fine. That's their rights as Americans. But here's what I wish.
I wish they would be honest and apply the same standard to abortion and pornography. I wish they would stand up and proclaim that abortion and pornography are in the same league. Because if you want to embrace their viewpoint you MUST embrace pornography and abortion.
Abortion, by their logic, should also be a state right. Pornography, by their logic, should also be a state right. Yet the federal government has mandated, by court decisions and law, that the support of these issues are the law of the land.
Now I happen to believe the opposite. I think these two issues are so dangerous to the country as a whole that they SHOULD be banned nationwide for the common welfare of the union of states.
What happened? It's easy. Religious morality stopped in government. We went from a nation governed by religion based morals a government based on amoral, or immoral principles. And let me make it clear..when I say religious morals I'm talking precisely about Judeo-Christian morality...or at least what this morality used to be.
And here's what these so called new conservatives fail to conserve. They fail to conserve the religious morality that stopped our leaders from ruling from a non-principled viewpoint. They fail to conserve the idea that right and wrong don't come from man or man's laws, but from God, the creator of man. They fail to conserve the notion that certain things are repugnant to God and to those who have His morals.
They have taken up the mantle of the 60's generation. Sex and drugs. Don't tell us what to do. We don't like your morals. Once they succeeded in tearing down God, they began working on the government.
John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States said "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Oh so true. Without morals and religion our constitution fails. It breaks. It doesn't work. It's inadequate. It can be twisted and shaped to whatever viewpoint the rulers want.
Pot. Abortion. Pornography. All of these are issues that a moral people and a moral government instinctively reject. But remove morality from the equation and anything goes. God save us.
Dude, better put on your asbestos undies....
And generous enough to share that fact with the rest of us.
More importantly, security and law enforcement agencies simply cannot be diverted to this nonsense while we have savages at the gates who want to kill us and bring down Western Civilization.
It turns out that leftists aren't the problem:
A country that rules a large chunk of the world for six hundred years? Hokay.
“Equating abortion with pornography seems a stretch. Abortion is the willful taking of a truly innocent human life. Pornography is pictures of naked people. Both are a sin ... but certainly not of the same social consequence.”
How do you think those unwanted babies got started in the first place? Duh!
Those of you who can’t see the relationship between pornography and divorce rates, STDs, and abortion rates are being willfully blind.
Can’t define pornography? Please.....
Here’s a start:
“Any transmission media that visually shows people, having oral sex, having vaginal sexual intercourse, or ejaculating.”
That is a result of bad law. Examples: The byzantine and exploitative tax code (full of loopholes for favored special interests, thus transferring their share of the load onto everyone else) encourages tax cheating. The practice of using traffic enforcement for revenue rather than safety breeds contempt to speed limits even when they are set based on legitimate engineering criteria.
What about the fact that the marijuana supply line is a violent lawless murdering entity which takes over more of America each year?
That is a result of prohibition, as demonstrated by the before-and-after experiment with alcohol prohibition.
Good point Mr. Blonde but the fact is that as of now, it isn’t legal, and the supply chain is what it is. Using pot supports this activity. Seems to me that the moral choice is clear: using pot supports violent activity, including murder. One of the reasons I stopped using is because the violence got too close to me.
The example you set is that it is OK to ignore bad laws. I try to each my kids that there are bad laws, but they should still be obeyed. “What if everyone in society ignored all the laws? Would you want to live in that kind of society?”
Excellent post Douglas KC.
By this argument, in 1941 you would say that FDR had some good points in his “day of infamy” speech but the fact is that as of now the people killed at Pearl Harbor are dead and the ships sunk there are sunk, and that the moral choice is not to add to the violence.
"Miss Frank is hiding in the attic, Herr Gauleiter...."
But the violence surrounding the trade is an argument in favor of legalization. If it were illegal and no one used, that would be great, but it won’t happen. The destruction that the prohibition causes is far greater than any evil it is protecting people from.
HA...i get the same brilliant responses...”go back to your bong, Dude!”...really childish.
Yup. so right.
ROFLAMO!!!!
>> How do you think those unwanted babies got started in the first place? Duh!
Photos of naked women do not cause unintended pregnancy.
>> Those of you who can’t see the relationship between pornography and divorce rates, STDs, and abortion rates are being willfully blind.
It is impossible to contract an STD or cause a pregnancy by use of pornography. These are symptoms fornication and adultery — not pornography. Divorce, maybe. But, I’d say infidelity and general obnoxiousness are far more responsible for divorce than is pornography.
>> “Any transmission media that visually shows people, having oral sex, having vaginal sexual intercourse, or ejaculating.”
So Playboy and Penthouse you’re OK with — just not Hustler. Gotcha.
SnakeDoc
Go back and read post #6 again. Trying to lump abortion in with pot and porn is an apples and oranges argument. Furthermore, it's disingenuous because your forcing conservatives to resort to argue in absolutes. Pot and porn isn't as cut-and-dried as abortion is. Just because we oppose abortion doesn't mean pot and porn should be banned too.
And banning pot is bad because it causes crime. Yes yes, I know. How come nobody ever makes the case that LEGALIZING something makes it more prevalent?
But Douglas, pot is very prevalent and it's already illegal. I mean, what are you going to do? Wouldn't it better if it was regulated with strict laws for abuse or buying for minors, education about its use like the "Just Say No?"
Look at abortion, homosexuality and pornography. When it became unconstitutional to limit these things they flourished.
All three have been in existence since our nation's founding. States were permitting abortion even in the 1800s. There was never a time when abortion was completely banned in this country. Of course I'm not advocating it, I'm just saying that the notion of America always being pure and pristine is false.
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