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To: Pacothecat

Maybe I’m gonna be in the minority here but I’m not sure I disagree with Specter on this particular issue.

He said 27% of health care costs are incurred in the last few days or hours of life

He said no one should tell patients what terminal health care they can have.

But he said we could ask people to consider costs and consider living wills.

I feel pretty much the same way. I don’t want a million dollars to be spent to keep me alive in great pain for a few more days.


5 posted on 02/24/2009 11:40:11 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: gondramB
You misrepresent what he is saying, completely!
6 posted on 02/24/2009 11:47:01 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: gondramB

I don’t see what the big deal is about this video. It is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

We’re going to have to put lifetime caps on Medicare spending...there is no other way around the problem.

The best thing to do would be to make the individual pay for their own health care, so that they have an incentive to be healthy and not just rely on the gov’t to fix them after years of abusing their bodies.


10 posted on 02/24/2009 11:51:21 PM PST by Sirloin (Fundamentalism kills.)
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To: gondramB

How many people survive EXPENSIVE medical procedures???
THIS SHOULD NOT BE UP TO GOVERMENT!!!!


11 posted on 02/24/2009 11:53:42 PM PST by Pacothecat
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To: gondramB
You have to remember thatSpecto has been treated for malignant brain tumors....twice.

Under his scenario, he wouldhave been consigned to a "wait" bin and pumped full of drugs while he timed out.

It is a sign of his malignant narcissism that he considers himself so elite that he would be excluded from this.

30 posted on 02/25/2009 3:12:32 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: gondramB

Theorectically, I agree.

But when it’s your mom lying there and you are desperate for a reprieve at the last second... praying some doctor will pull a “House” and come up with something to save her at the last second... anyway, you don’t just let them die.

And if it is you, you certainly aren’t going to say “Man, I know being hooked up to this medicine that might not do me any good is costing a lot of money, how about pulling the plug, ok?”


32 posted on 02/25/2009 3:27:01 AM PST by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson VIVA LA REVOLUTION!)
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To: gondramB
He said 27% of health care costs are incurred in the last few days or hours of life

In a crisis extraordinary resources are used. Whether a fire, a war, a car crash, a plane landing on the Potomac, or a heart attack, the expense during a crisis is higher than normal.

Let's stop rescuing planes that land on rivers. Can you imagine the expense of all those resources!

35 posted on 02/25/2009 5:00:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: gondramB
I feel pretty much the same way. I don’t want a million dollars to be spent to keep me alive in great pain for a few more days.

Neither do I and I do not have to be 70 to make that declaration. However, wonder how much it cost US taxpayers for Specter's medical care. Spector is much like the Animal Farm more equal than the rest of the animal kingdom. He should rescues himself from the whole health care debate, since he already got his medical extension. Lawyers always make the simple complicated for self serving purposes.

Let him go feed on the green grass the rest of his days.

36 posted on 02/25/2009 5:09:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: gondramB

The problem with ‘living wills’ is in the wording though, so they need to have various living wills and not a one size fits all!

When my mom was undergoing cancer treatment in 2007, we took her off of the ‘living will’ code when she went in to the hospital with complications from treatment. She had a cancer in her throat..it was swelling and if we had allowed that living will to stay, had her throat closed completely up due to treatment, they would not have resuscitated her.

She is alive and cancer free right now.

I hate politicians trying to tell the rest of us what is right and wrong when it comes to our own family and healthcare!


39 posted on 02/25/2009 6:57:04 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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