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Cherry-Picked Facts Heat Up Climate Debate
Albuquerque Journal ^
| February 18, 2009
| John Fleck
Posted on 02/20/2009 10:42:02 PM PST by neverdem
There is an old canard of the political debate around climate change that goes something like this: How can scientists be believed about global warming today when back in the 1970s they predicted global cooling?
The argument, reprised in Sunday's Journal by syndicated columnist George Will, sounds reasonable, and gets good traction in the political debate.
It is wrong.
There was no widespread belief among scientists in the 1970s about a coming ice age. Will engages in an egregious case of cherry-picking, plucking quotes that seem to support his assertion while ignoring a vast body of literature that does not.
To give but one example: Will quotes a 1975 Science News article as predicting "a full-blown 10,000-year ice age".
The 1970s were an interesting time in climate science. Global temperatures were cooling at the time, and some scientists were struggling to understand why. Was it variations in solar radiation caused by oscillations in Earth's orbit? Could aerosol pollution be blocking the sun?
Meanwhile other researchers were piecing together the story of greenhouse gases being emitted by fossil fuel burning, and considering the possibility that they could warm the planet.
If you read the full 1975 Science News article, rather than Will's hand-picked quote, you get a different picture. "The cooling trend observed since 1940 is real enough, (C.C. Wallen of the World Meteorological Organization) says, but not enough is known about the underlying causes to justify any sort of extrapolation."
The article goes on to say: "Stephen H. Schneider of the National Center for Atmospheric Research says that by the turn of the century, enough carbon dioxide will have been put into the atmosphere to raise the temperature of earth half a degree."
In other words, the 1975 Science News article, rather than predicting...
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- American astronaut Dr. Jack Schmittâthe last living man to walk on the moon.
- William Gray, Colorado State University, leading researcher into tropical weather patterns.
- Richard Lindzen, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, one of the worldâs leading experts in dynamic meteorology, especially planetary waves.
- Stephen McIntyre, primary author of Climate Audit, a blog devoted to the analysis and discussion of climate data. He is a devastating critic of the temperature record of the past 1,000 years, particularly the work of Michael E. Mann, creator of the infamous âhockey stickâ graph. That graph--thoroughly discredited in scientific circles--supposedly proved that mankind is responsible for a sharp increase in greenhouse gases.
- Arthur Robinson, curator of a global warming petition signed by more than 32,000 American scientists, including more than 10,000 with doctorate degrees, rejecting the alarmist assertion that global warming has put the Earth in crisis and is caused primarily by mankind.
- Willie Soon, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
- Roy Spencer, University of Alabama at Huntsville, principal research scientist and team leader on NASAâs Aqua satellite.
The Heartland Institute, a 24-year-old national nonpartisan think-tank based in Chicago, said all of the eventâs expenses will be covered by admission fees and individual and foundation donors to Heartland. No corporate dollars or sponsorships earmarked for the event were solicited or accepted.
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posted on
02/20/2009 10:42:02 PM PST
by
neverdem
To: neverdem
“.....but not enough is known about the underlying causes to justify any sort of extrapolation”
It was true in ‘75, and it’s true today. I sat through lectures in meteorology class where the prof swore up and down that we were going into an ice age (in fairness he did not say that the time for debate was over). The only difference between then and now is there wasn’t a nutty pol (who had trouble making it through most any of his science classes), who’s been boosting his warming fantasy for 20 years. That, and funding his accolytes in academia with public money to back him up. There’s the real difference between then and now.
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posted on
02/20/2009 11:30:57 PM PST
by
Habibi
("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
To: neverdem
I remember my parents had an alarmist pamphlet in the 1970's entitled "The Coming Ice Age." There was also a Newsweek article about it...
The Coming Ice Age, Newsweek, 1975
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posted on
02/20/2009 11:47:29 PM PST
by
Gigantor
(Socialists always claim to be doing something for you while they're actually doing something to you.)
To: neverdem
Here’s another fact I cherry picked: the Vikings used to farm in Greenland.
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posted on
02/20/2009 11:49:28 PM PST
by
Tex Pete
(Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
To: Gigantor
Time had one also http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html
“However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age.”
To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
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posted on
02/21/2009 1:04:31 AM PST
by
neverdem
(Xin loi minh oi)
To: neverdem
Pardon my French, neverdem, but WTF are you doing up at this hour?
I've got Martian death flu and my body won't produce any heat.
And it's 19 degrees outside.
What's *your* excuse? ;-)
Cheers!
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posted on
02/21/2009 1:19:23 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Tex Pete
Heres another fact I cherry picked: the Vikings used to farm in Greenland. Yeah, back when they went to the Super Bowl, too.
Thanks for reminding me of that painful fact, guy.
Cheers!
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posted on
02/21/2009 1:21:01 AM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: neverdem
Some quotes I pulled from a 1975 article on “New Ice Age” or more benign weather:
Some climate experts believe a new Ice Age is coming, partially caused by man’s interference with the atmosphere. Others beleive the world’s natural climate cycle is shifting and we are about to enter a long period of adverse weather.
In effect we are in a warming period following what is known as the Little Ice Age of the 16th to 19th centuries.
All over the world temperatures appear to be going down. Armadillos are moving south....Iceland has dropped 2.7 degrees since 1945...views as nonsense the idea that massive climate changes can take place in a short period of time...
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posted on
02/21/2009 1:52:32 AM PST
by
VeniVidiVici
(If the Democrats wish to foist national health care on Americans, give us the same plan Congress has)
To: neverdem; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; ...
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posted on
02/21/2009 4:08:55 AM PST
by
steelyourfaith
(Hope + Change = PORKULU$)
To: neverdem
widespread belief among scientists in the 1970s about a coming ice age. if this is a canard, what's a hockeystick?
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posted on
02/21/2009 4:30:53 AM PST
by
gusopol3
To: neverdem; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown
GREENIE WATCH
Ping me if you find one I've missed.
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posted on
02/21/2009 5:45:25 AM PST
by
xcamel
(The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
To: gusopol3
if this is a canard, what's a hockeystick?A statistically manipulated lie.
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posted on
02/21/2009 5:48:14 AM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: grey_whiskers
the Vikings used to farm in Greenland.they had a quarterback and coach then as well
To: neverdem
To: neverdem
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posted on
02/21/2009 8:45:47 AM PST
by
GOPJ
(.The MSM will trumpet every hard luck story that puts Santelli in his place. Pray for Santelli...)
To: neverdem
This editorial by the Albuquerque Urinal is just part of its AGW campaign. They have a staff reporter who keeps getting front page articles that proclaim things like “most scientists agree . . .” and “the majority of climatologists warn . . .”. It use to be that the ABQ paper let the AP content do its news propaganda - now it has staff writing junk science too.
Very poor journalism from a newspaper that is dying almost as quickly as the NY Slimes. It continues to lose advertising volume and the number of pages keeps dropping month-by-month.
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posted on
02/21/2009 9:29:51 AM PST
by
Thickman
(Term limits are the answer.)
To: neverdem
“American astronaut Dr. Jack Schmittâthe last living man to walk on the moon.”
Gene Cernan is quite alive still.
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posted on
02/21/2009 4:39:27 PM PST
by
Names Ash Housewares
(Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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