If the baby in the womb is not a member of the species homo sapiens, what is it? A kangaroo? Moreover, Talmud or no Talmud the baby is in fact a member of the species homo sapiens and natural rights apply to all, not just those who have decided when God ensouls us. Of course God had a slightly different opinion since He stated quite clearly that HE knew us when we were in the womb. But that's neither here nor there.
Look I have no patience for pro abortion libertarians no matter what utilitarian or religious view they use to justify the murder of human babies in the womb.
I've heard it all before. You, like so many other pro abortion libertarians, are guilty of hypocrisy at it's worst. Liberty for me and none for the weakest among us.
Congratulations.
jwalsh07 wrote:
“You’re not only pathetic, you’re a moron as well.”
Well, inasmuch as you haven’t posted a profile on Free Republic, that’s more than I know about you. The anonymity of the Internet is like too much liquor — it makes ordinarily mild and civil people loud, rude, and prone to start fights. Where’s the bouncer?
“If the baby in the womb is not a member of the species homo sapiens, what is it? A kangaroo?”
A kangaroo isn’t even a kangaroo until it emerges. Until then it is a neonate.
A butterfly isn’t a butterfly until it completes its stages as an egg, larva, and pupa.
Nobody asks why the egg crossed the road because nobody has any trouble telling the difference between a chicken and an egg.
Can you tell the difference between an acorn and an oak tree?
Only when it comes to the stages of mammalian development do certain human beings make themselves incredulous that there are obvious differences between gametes, zygotes, embryos, fetuses, and infant human beings — then get angry when someone has the ability to discern defining differences that they have made themselves blind to so they may insult and bully their neighbors who come to different conclusions.
Evidently freedom of thought plays no part in the “free republic” you want. Excuse me if I decline to join your cabal of omniscient totalitarians.
“Moreover, Talmud or no Talmud...”
Excuse me, but you don’t even know the difference between the Hebrews and the post-Diaspora Jews. The Hebrews had no Talmud.
“... the baby is in fact a member of the species homo sapiens and natural rights apply to all, not just those who have decided when God ensouls us.”
And it’s not a baby until the umbilical to the mother is severered and it breathes as an independent individual being. Until that happens it’s no more a baby than a caterpillar is a butterfly.
“Of course God had a slightly different opinion since He stated quite clearly that HE knew us when we were in the womb.”
The scriptural statement was that God knew Jeremiah even before he was in his mother’s womb — before a fleshly body has even begun to gestate for him to occupy — before biological conception.
“But that’s neither here nor there. Look I have no patience for pro abortion libertarians no matter what utilitarian or religious view they use to justify the murder of human babies in the womb.”
What statement have I made that allows you to conclude that I am in favor of abortion? I’m almost always opposed to it. But I’m not so full of myself that I would abandon my self-control to force my views on everyone else, as totalitarians like you would.
“I’ve heard it all before.”
And apparently can not learn from what you hear.
“You, like so many other pro abortion libertarians, are guilty of hypocrisy at it’s worst. Liberty for me and none for the weakest among us.”
Your view of liberty is out of Orwell — using guns and prisons to force your theological convictions on any others whose consciences guide them differently.
“Congratulations.”
I’ll take it. An insult from a Tory is the highest compliment an American can receive.