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To: GonzoII
one judge who was offended by the pro-life speech agreed to step down

There's a shocker. Usually pro-aborts don't have this much integrity.

This one must have been one of those "pro-aborts" instead of a "had-abort". A "had-abort" would have not conceded their "right" in any way.

14 posted on 02/16/2009 1:55:23 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MrB

Actually, a good percentage of “had-abort”s become pro-life, including the woman who was the subject of Roe vs. Wade, as well as others I’ve heard.


28 posted on 02/16/2009 2:09:13 PM PST by Humble Servant (See y'all in the Gulag.)
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To: MrB
This one must have been one of those "pro-aborts" instead of a "had-abort". A "had-abort" would have not conceded their "right" in any way.

Kudos to you for raising this point. I don't often hear discussion of how women who have had abortions are almost obligated to fiercely defend the practice, lest they feel guilty for offing their own children. During the presidential campaign when I had to listen to female coworkers hysterically rail against Sarah Palin, I always silently wondered how many abortions they'd had. You disagree with Palin on the issues? Fine. You think she's dumb? Fine. You despise her with every bone in your body and wish she'd get hit by a bus? Ok...how many abortions have you had, exactly?

88 posted on 02/16/2009 7:44:56 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: MrB; Humble Servant; Junior_G

I’d love to see actual numbers on this, although it would be an extremely difficult statistic to compile for obvious reasons.

I agree with both - there are plenty of women who’ve had abortions who have swung way to the pro-life side - myself included, to be utterly frank - I am appalled by my decision at 18, which was immature but done with eyes wide open (I’ll explain why I had such clarity, why I believe almost all women do), and as a result, I wouldn’t have another abortion even if it meant saving my own life.

At the same time, there are plenty of women who are still rabidly in favor. We see this evidenced on a reasonably regular basis right here with posted articles authored by women who have a vehement but horribly skewed perspective of morality when it comes to abortion, some who actually seem to brag about their choices, clinging to the notion that their abortions have saved them tons of grief in life rather than the opposite.

From personal experience I believe that those women cling desperately to their viewpoint because they can’t bear to face what’s behind curtain number two, so much so that they keep it all stuffed way down in deep dark places they don’t ever visit, and distract themselves from it by yelling against it. These women are in psychological trouble, but it’s too emotionally dangerous to admit it.

As a woman I can speak to this, because despite the propaganda they’ve been force-fed for decades, women do know that the baby isn’t just a clump of tissue. They have an inherent knowledge of their child and a God-given desire to protect him. I knew my baby was a baby, but I shut my eyes to the reality of it in order to get through to the other side of the worst thing I’ve ever done in my life.

But that’s the thing - you never do really get through. Abortion traumatizes women because their very souls cry out against what society insists is perfectly acceptable. And do those years of pro-choice propaganda have an effect? Absolutely. While it doesn’t eliminate that inherent awareness, it allows women to put it aside.

Don’t misunderstand me - are these women responsible for their own decisions? Absolutely. Abortion trauma for the mother is self-inflicted. But she has accomplices, and they all have to answer one day to the One who gave them life. And if I wasn’t assured years ago of His very undeserved forgiveness, I frankly don’t know how I would get through the rest of my life, and might be in denial as many of these women still are.


91 posted on 02/18/2009 6:25:33 AM PST by agrace
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