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To: Just mythoughts

Why would the unions support any GOP? The GOP has been hostile to the Unions in the last decades...Reagan was the last president who reached out to them. Also, with union membership down to 12% nationwide...the GOP has more trouble then unions...if Obama depended on Union vote, he would have lost.

You don’t get it...I worked for McCain...there are GOP here who will never vote GOP again...and they are not union either because of manufacturing job losses...trade. The GOP has been dubbed the party of free trade. Now there are so many people out of work who watched the GOP Senators (despised in Ohio) like Shelby talk about killing autos...it’s almost over for the GOP in Ohio. I would remind you that no GOP president has ever one without Ohio...only twice did the candidate who won, win without Ohio...during the election of 1944 (Roosevelt had an Ohio VP named Bricker) and during the Kennedy election...Nixon took Ohio but lost the general (maybe). In any case , Kennedy assumed the presidency. You can kick out all the RINO’s and everyone who does not agree with you, but what will be left?


101 posted on 02/16/2009 6:48:37 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Government jobs are now the UNION and they will do whatever it takes to keep their jobs and increase their membership.

UNION has two meanings. ONE the bureaucracy... those who do NOT one productive thing but cost money, both for the company and for their union members. The other meaning is the literal on the job worker, producing the product.

THE GOP would NOT take on the UNION hierarchy directly, but conceived the idea that ‘free trade’ would take the control from UNION bosses that restricted profits and growth.

Reagan was NOT afraid of the UNIONS, he knew who and what the ‘bosses’ that control the money and the freedom of its members were all about.

Liberals were also for ‘free trade’ which President was it that herded NAFTA through the Congress?

The GOP became ‘open borders’ globalists using laborers as a commodity. But the UNION bosses really can't complain because the too use ‘labors’ as their commodities.

Liberals and GOP ‘open borders’ crowd ought to be open and start selling their commodities laborers on a legal exchange.

114 posted on 02/16/2009 7:17:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: nyconse
Reagan was the last president who reached out to them

actually that is untrue, some Union heads liked Reagan for his conservative moral values...after Carter's relativism

Reagan broke the air traffic controllers.....like a piece of fatwood over his knee, Reagan was hardly a Union reach around sort

The Ohio paradigm no longer works...time for a new one:

motivate more conservative whites to get out and vote, used to only take 53% or so, we had nearly 56% this time and lost due to latino wave mostly but if we can get 60% then we win

don't say it can't be done...whites in Utah and several southern states vote 80% GOP

135 posted on 02/16/2009 9:27:09 AM PST by wardaddy (I'm for Sarah. Nuff said, you either get it or you don't.)
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To: nyconse
during the election of 1944 (Roosevelt had an Ohio VP named Bricker)

In 1944 Roosevelt had a Missouri VP named Harry Truman. Bricker was a GOP Senator. In 1940 Roosevelt's VP was the commie Henry Wallace of Iowa. In 1932 and 1936 his VP was John Nance Garner of Texas.

310 posted on 02/17/2009 4:26:11 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: nyconse
during the election of 1944 (Roosevelt had an Ohio VP named Bricker)

In 1944 Roosevelt had a Missouri VP named Harry Truman. Bricker was a GOP Senator. In 1940 Roosevelt's VP was the commie Henry Wallace of Iowa. In 1932 and 1936 his VP was John Nance Garner of Texas.

311 posted on 02/17/2009 4:26:11 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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