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De-Programming Students (Thomas Sowell)
Townhall.com ^ | February 10, 2009 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 02/09/2009 9:05:13 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

I piss off most of the liberals I teach with. I am a conservative who teaches environmental science. Sweet Justice!!!!!


21 posted on 02/09/2009 9:36:37 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping jaz.

“Yet they are the jury that will ultimately decide the fate of this nation.”

We’ve read about the parents not allowed to observe at the schools, and the children being told to not tell their parents about school activities, and we recently read about Algore telling the children to NOT believe their parents.

It’s control freaks out of control jaz.


22 posted on 02/09/2009 9:37:02 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: jan in Colorado

ping


23 posted on 02/09/2009 9:39:20 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Grampa Dave
The others may be hooked for life.

I believe that's true in many many cases but there's that few who come around after struggling to pay taxes and they start raising their own.

24 posted on 02/09/2009 9:40:56 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: aliquando

Good for you, glad to hear it. :)


25 posted on 02/09/2009 9:41:45 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tomato lover

Well, there is home schooling, and there is private school.

There is infiltrating the public schools :).

No matter how hard it is to acknowledge it, it is our responsibility to raise our kids right. It is easier to avoid the programming than to de-program, I think.

At the least those of us who have to put our kids in public schools can spend an hour after dinner doing regular de-programming as we help go through homework. It would be time well spent.

Those of you with older kids do be aware that you can home school with satellite programs and so forth, not too expensive. You need to be able to trust your kids alone at home during your work hours, though.


26 posted on 02/09/2009 9:42:46 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: jazusamo

The brainwashing/imprinting combination of the public schools and pop culture is deadly. Most college age kids are literally unable to think outside a few narrow parameters.


27 posted on 02/09/2009 9:43:12 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: jazusamo

Wow. Spot on.

Most schools no longer concern themselves with teaching critical thought.


28 posted on 02/09/2009 9:43:49 PM PST by Rocky
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To: rockinqsranch

That fries me reading about schools that are not open with parents and that algore thing was unbelievable, that just should not be allowed to happen.


29 posted on 02/09/2009 9:45:12 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

So true.

they are the jury that will ultimately decide the fate of this nation.


30 posted on 02/09/2009 9:47:55 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: originalbuckeye
Sad we can’t get Dr.Sowell to run for office. I’d love to see it! I suspect he’s way too intelligent to be in politics.

All for the better, actually. Leave that to his students. I remember Hayakawa in the senate. He didn't seem too happy there.

31 posted on 02/09/2009 9:48:05 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: Marie2

I don’t know how many areas of the country have homelink programs to help parents home school, our area does and it has been a big help to my daughter. I believe this program was one of the first in Battle Ground, WA.


32 posted on 02/09/2009 9:50:54 PM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Elementary as it may seem that we should hear both sides of an issue before making up our minds, that is seldom what happens on politically correct issues today in our schools and colleges. The biggest argument of the left is that there is no argument-- whether the issue is global warming, "open space" laws or whatever.

Some students may even imagine that they have already heard the other side because their teachers may have given them their version of other people's arguments or motives.

But a jury would never be impressed by having the prosecution tell them what the defendant's defense is. They would want to hear the defense attorney present that case.

This is critical as this tactic is the only way most students do hear of the other sides case and sadly they do think this is exactly as presented by a very biased opposed faculty. Great article. Sad very sad it happens in the first place as another poster mentioned--it would be best to not have them indoctrinated to begin with.

My big question having once been one of these brainwashed robots and seeing how bad it is today and how early it happens is have we created the fascists of tomorrow that have to be suppressed with muscle because they can not tolerate opposition or points of view that are different and become violent toward us non conformists to their brainwashed reality.

33 posted on 02/09/2009 9:51:27 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Tomato lover

Or the cold of Alaska...


34 posted on 02/09/2009 9:53:48 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: jazusamo

Bob Jones University has a satellite and similar programs available for reasonable rates, and they work all over the country.


35 posted on 02/09/2009 9:57:45 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: Marie2
No matter how hard it is to acknowledge it, it is our responsibility to raise our kids right. It is easier to avoid the programming than to de-program, I think.

I believe that kids can be immunized to programming, at least partially. They'll always be exposed to it; it's a big weird world. Teaching them how and why to think early will allow them to decide what to think all by themselves later on.

36 posted on 02/09/2009 10:02:54 PM PST by Seven plus One
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To: jazusamo

“Hearing only one side does nothing to equip students with the experience to know how to sort out opposing sides of other issues they will have to confront in the future, after they have left school and need to reach their own conclusions on the issues arising later.”

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Isn’t that Lefty’s goal?


37 posted on 02/09/2009 10:05:43 PM PST by Yooper4Life (47% voted against him, and millions stayed home.)
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To: jazusamo

>> [fight the dogma] by asking: “Have you ever read a single book on the other side of that issue?”

Parents can find themselves in the difficult position of balancing fact and stress for the child. The process of challenging the child’s ‘education’ often reverberates back into the classroom. The child becomes the messenger retaining the most recent set of instructions.

To question the ‘educator’ can be intimidating for the child. Many ‘educators’ being proud/defensive of their politics/beliefs can strike back at the inquisitive student in a combative manner, and do so with the intent of terminating the discussion indefinitely — a concern for parents.

The seeding of factoids that upset certain ‘educators’ can be risky business some parents would rather avoid; protecting the child from a hostile response by the ‘educator’ whether the payback is through devaluation of grades, embarrassment, or outright hostility.

It’s the parents responsibility to know that nature and substance of information the school systems are flushing through the minds of the students. The ‘trust but verify’ approach may work best for the pre-college years. Prayer may be the best option once the youngster heads off to the front line.


38 posted on 02/09/2009 10:43:11 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: Yooper4Life

Face it; once HEW was split into 2 departments [HHR & Education], the department of Education became the Dept. of Indoctrination!

Next will be the converting of the FCC into a Broadcast Indoctrination Commission.


39 posted on 02/09/2009 10:47:55 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Gene Eric

As we raised our 2 Boys, Sue and I talked “Politics” and Ideas over dinner and during TV time.We had books, our books, not just “kid Lit”.

We were more Effective in warping our kids, than the Teachers Unions were.

Even after they left home, they continued to borrow from our bookshelf. Now, our Daughters-in-Law are reading Ayn Rand!


40 posted on 02/09/2009 11:01:13 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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