Yes, the Ljoticevi existed. But how large was this group, Dio? The Ljoticevi couldn't even win a single local election before the war -- they were a tiny faction, probably proportionally smaller than the American Nazi Party!
So you take a tiny faction, empowered by Germany only after Germany conquered Yugoslavia, and turn it into "all Serbs". That's nuts!
And how was Mihailovic supposed to be "pro-German" when he rescued 500 American Airmen even after the US had switched sides to Tito. Mihajlovic's Cetniks were killing Ljoticevi, so please tell me which one was pro-German? Mihailovic and the Ljoticevi can't all have been supporting Germany while they were killing each other!
You think that you are defending Croatia by distorting Serbia's WWII history -- you aren't. You are just dragging a red herring into the argument.
It's the same kind of red herring that you've used with "Jasenovac wasn't a death camp because there were people who were released from there". You provided me with a "list of those released from Jasonovac", and when I looked at it, I realized that the names were virtually all Croats! Yes, some "Croat dissidents" may have been released from Jasenovac, but that didn't render it "not a deathcamp" for Serbs, Jews and Gypsies!
You are preying on the ignorance of the uninformed in selling "a story" that does not fit the historical evidence.
The Ljoticevci weren't the only group, Bokababe. They're just one example. As for not winning a single election, neither did the Ustashe in Croatia.
So you take a tiny faction, empowered by Germany only after Germany conquered Yugoslavia, and turn it into "all Serbs". That's nuts!
Nowhere have I said "all Serbs". Nor is that the only faction. We can discuss the Chetniks under Kosta Pecanac, the units under Milan Nedic, the various MVAC forces, etc.
And how was Mihailovic supposed to be "pro-German" when he rescued 500 American Airmen even after the US had switched sides to Tito.
Because Mihailovic played a double game. He was actively engaged in a civil war with the Partisans and willingly taking German weapons and assistance to wipe them out all the while hoping that the Allies would land on the Dalmatian coast at which point his forces were to turn against the Axis.
Recall though that this refers specifically to those Chetniks under his direct control. Other Chetnik groups under Draza's Ravna Gora Movement began collaboration much, much earlier with most never having had fought the Axis. Examples include Djujic's Dinarska Chetnicka Divizija which was legalized by the Italian Fascists as an MVAC force and which later took part in combined actions with Germans and Ustashi forces against the Partisans in and around Knin and which were rescued by the Germans after being routed by the Partisans in Northern Dalmatia.
Another example includes the Chetnik head of Central Bosnia Uros Drenovic who like Djujic took weapons from the Germans, assisted in their offensives, and signed deals with the Ustashi for joint actions and patrols.
The rule in the areas west of the Drina was for Chetnik units to serve as Axis auxillaries after the fall of 1941 to the end of the war with minimal exceptions.
Mihajlovic's Cetniks were killing Ljoticevi, so please tell me which one was pro-German? Mihailovic and the Ljoticevi can't all have been supporting Germany while they were killing each other!
Mihailovic's Chetniks and Ljotic's forces occasionally skirmished, but by 1944 they were in open alliance and the Chetniks faciliatated Ljotic's move to Slovenia where Draza instructed Ljotic to find out the situation with the Slovene Chetniks and to try to build an anti-communist coalition with Croatian forces against Tito.
Recall also that Momcilo Djujic of Dalmatia was a follower of Dmitrije Ljotic while at the same time being a Vojvoda in Mihailovic's Ravna Gora Movement.
You think that you are defending Croatia by distorting Serbia's WWII history -- you aren't. You are just dragging a red herring into the argument.
Everything I've said is factual and can be documented.
It's the same kind of red herring that you've used with "Jasenovac wasn't a death camp because there were people who were released from there". You provided me with a "list of those released from Jasonovac", and when I looked at it, I realized that the names were virtually all Croats! Yes, some "Croat dissidents" may have been released from Jasenovac, but that didn't render it "not a deathcamp" for Serbs, Jews and Gypsies!
The list I provided you, one of several that still exist, have names from all those groups.
You are preying on the ignorance of the uninformed in selling "a story" that does not fit the historical evidence.
Once again, everything I have stated is factual and can be documented from different sources, none of them from NDH.
As an example Bokababe, which units defended the town of Benkovac in Dalmatia from the Partisans and fought side by side? Take a wild guess.
As for Jasenovac, the bulk of the civilians taken there came from the Kozara during Operation Kozara. Besides German and Croatian units guess which Serbian units took part in that offensive on the Axis side?