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To: Bokababe; Cicero; montyspython; getoffmylawn
After being corrected, you still refer to them as deathcamps. How could they be "death camps" when people were reguarly released from them after time served, good behaviour, amnesty?

Cicero: beware of Serbian propagandists and their claims. The Jasenovac Research Institute for example engaged in a gross lie in which they published the names of 700,000 purported victims of the Ustashi in Jasenovac. It turned out that over 90% of the names were names of those who perished elsewhere, hundreds of thousands of which were on the Axis side during the war!

At last count, I've found 110 relatives on the list and I can assure you that not one of them was a victim of Ustashi terror. For instance, two of my greatgrandparents were killed in an Allied air raid in October 1944, but both their names appear on the list of "victims of Ustashi terror" on the Jasenovac Research Institute site.

Always, always take Serbian claims with a two handfuls of salt.

29 posted on 02/10/2009 11:57:02 AM PST by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
Cicero: beware of Serbian propagandists and their claims...Always, always take Serbian claims with a two handfuls of salt.

But lap up with a spoon whatever Croatian revisionism you hand out that is completely unsupported by any evidence out there, even Jewish and American sources?

Cicero is a grownup and will believe what he wishes -- he doesn't need to be told what to do by you.

And BTW, Professor Maher is Irish.

31 posted on 02/10/2009 12:07:28 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diocletian
So let me get this straight, you are saying that Jasenovac is not a death camp because technically it "let people go"?

Please don't start that crap again because as a Catholic you should not be playing games with moral relativism by whitewashing Croat crimes with technicalities. I have dead relatives as a result of Jasenovac that would disagree with you so put a sock in it.

37 posted on 02/10/2009 1:43:20 PM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Diocletian

The Ustashi claimed to have killed 1 million Serbs. Were they just bragging?


39 posted on 02/10/2009 1:59:55 PM PST by getoffmylawn (You go in the cage? Cage goes in the water? You go in the water? Shark's in the water? OUR shark??)
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To: Diocletian
"Notice how Bokababe avoids answering the question about the Kozara anti-partisan operation in 1942. Serbs don't like to hear the fact that Vojvoda Radic's Chetniks took part in that operation to sweep the Kozara of Tito's Partisans and aided the Germans, Ustashi, and Domobrans in that action that saw those very same Serbian civilians and Partisans sent to Jasenovac.

If you are going to talk about me, talk TO me, Dio. It's sneaky and rude to do otherwise.

I don't get into WWII battle by battle, because memorizing who was on what ridge on what date fighting who, just isn't my forte. I have read enough about it to form an opinion, but it isn't my country -- the US is-- and if I haven't memorized the American Civil War, battle by battle, why would I memorize WWII Yugoslavia's civil war, battle by battle?

No one here even brought up WWII Yugoslavia with reference to today's Croatia, except the Dragic letter to the editor. Until you made a big deal out of calling that guy an idiot, WWII Croatia was never an issue.

But this: "beware of Serbian propagandists and their claims"Always, always take Serbian claims with a two handfuls of salt.

That's just plain rude and disrespectful. I may think that at times you delude yourself, but I have never called you or all Croats "liars". It's not the 1990's anymore, Dio. Americans are not so gullible today to just soak up innuendo and propaganda like sponges.

64 posted on 02/10/2009 10:45:27 PM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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