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Would You Turn Your Cheek to a Terrorist?
Townhall.com ^ | February 8, 2009 | David R. Stokes1

Posted on 02/08/2009 3:44:50 AM PST by Kaslin

During a recent interview with CNN’s Anderson Cooper, President Obama indicated that his administration is in fact moving away from the of the phrase “war on terror.” Recognizing that “we have a battle or a war against some terrorist organizations,” he sees those groups as not “representative of a broader Arab community.” Presumably, his use of the word “some” in reference to terrorist organizations does not mean he thinks other terrorist organizations are less dangerous, but is just a case of awkward phrasing.

Then again, he did say that “words matter.”  

The president told Cooper that “words matter in this situation because one of the ways we’re going to win this struggle is through the battle of hearts and minds.”  My question is this: Are we now trying to win over the hearts and minds of terrorists? 

Certainly there are issues that need to be debated in the marketplace of ideas.  There are a vast number of Muslims in the world who are not radicalized. And we certainly want to use reason, intelligent argument, and appeals to justice, mercy, and compassion as part of a concerted effort to prevent some from crossing over to the dark side. 

But for those who are already indoctrinated, immersed, and otherwise in bondage to a fanatical Islamist ideology, it is foolhardy to think that any words from anyone in the west will disabuse them of their destructive notions and deadly ambitions. 

Mr. Obama reminded those gathered at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington the other day that he is not naïve.  But some of the signals being sent by him and his administration are, at best, mixed on the subject.  If you have to say you are tough, you’re probably not.  And if you have to say you are not naïve, you just might be.

Frankly, I – along with so many others – have never been a fan of the whole “war on terror” nomenclature.  It smacked of vagueness and misdirection, directing focus on one particular methodology in a larger conflict.  I have always thought we should be demonizing an ideology – one very worthy of such a characterization.

We should have, all along, been saying that we are in a war against a vile, loathsome, and pernicious ideology – Islamism.  It is only a combination of a misguided sense of political correctness blended with a cowering fear of inciting dangerous people that has kept us from telling it like it is.  

If President Obama wanted to move away from “war on terror” and toward “war on Islamism,” he would have my support.  But his move away from George W. Bush’s definition of the conflict is in the wrong direction.  He and those around him apparently think that “war on terror” is just too strong. 

At a time when this country needs to be vigilant and focused on a very real enemy – one determined to end our way of life as we know it – Mr. Obama has blurred the issue.  He is moving us away from a war mindset to something more surgical and limited.  This should be no surprise to observant Americans.  After all, he didn’t really have much to say on the issue during his campaign.

To minimize or marginalize danger is to ignore it.  And to ignore danger is how to quickly become blind and vulnerable.  

Make no mistake, anything less than a clear commitment, born of national self-interest and concern for international justice and stability, to destroy Islamism in this generation the way we defeated Nazism nearly 65 years ago, is, in fact, the epitome of naivety. Reaching out to moderate Muslims has its place, but not without a clear challenge to them to be on the front lines of resistance to Islamism.

Islamism is not synonymous with Islam, per se – but unless Muslims rise up and fight against the radicals, it may one day be.  Much is made of the fact that Islamists only make up a small percentage of Muslims worldwide.   But as I have written before, that kind of dismissal ignores the fact that we are still talking about more actual people than the total combined populations of Germany, Japan, and Italy, as the world went to war in 1939.

There are, in fact, clear parallels – even direct connections – between Islamism and the mechanisms of fascism and Marxist-Leninism. 

As Daniel Pipes has noted, “Islam is the most political of religions, the one most oriented toward power.”  He further suggests that Islamism – the kind that is radical, utopian, and totalitarian, “is a modern evolution of something that was always in Islam but takes it to an ideological extreme.”

It would follow, therefore, that Muslims themselves – particularly those who fly the flag of moderation – must deal with the cancer in their own religious body.  Otherwise, they run the risk of ensuring the ultimate identity of Islam with terror, hunger for power, and violence.  

In the 1920s, when the Ku Klux Klan paraded through the streets of America preaching a doctrine of bigotry and attaching their venom to an image sacred to all Christians - the cross - it took many Christians a long time to repudiate the hooded fanatics. 

Why was that?

It was simply because many “Christians” (all white ones, of course) found themselves sympathizing with some of what the Klan stood for.  They preached a form of patriotic Americanism that resonated with many in America’s heartland – especially during that decade of seismic social change. 

Sure they wore hoods and had funny titles for everything, but they also waved the flag and carried the cross.  So what if they burned the latter.  This is how some rationalized their sympathy with such a glaringly un-Christian cause.

Using Christian imagery, clergymen, and even churches, for a short time the KKK had a place in the hearts of many “God-fearing” Americans.  In some places, a person could not be elected to office without Klan support – it was a big deal for a while.  It was an ugly chapter in the history of Protestantism in American church history.

When the KKK was finally repudiated as a major movement in America, it still took some “Christians” a long time to get it out of their system.  The “nativist” instinct lived on, though spoken of only in whispers and with subtle winks of the eye. 

I suspect it is that way with many of our Muslim neighbors these days.  They may not buy into the terrorism and violence, as they practice a more moderate Islam, but there may be a few things that simply resonate with them.  Possibly this is why it is so hard to find moderate Muslims who will actually renounce Islamism.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney may well be one of the most unpopular people in the country these days, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.  And when he warns us – as he did this week – that the country is swiftly becoming more vulnerable to terrorist attack, in light of the body language of the new administration, he may be on to something.

Cheney, speaking of Islamist terrorism in general, and particularly Gitmo detainees, recently reminded us “These are evil people. And we’re not going to win this fight by turning the other cheek.”

It’s like that old story about the man who sold a mule, telling the buyer that the animal would do anything as long he was asked nicely.  The next day, the buyer returned and shared a tale of frustration because the stubborn mule would not do a thing – no matter how many times he was asked nicely.

The seller picked up a wooden two-by-four that was leaning against his barn.  He walked      right up to the mule and hit the animal in the head.  Then he whispered, "Please pull that plow." The mule started moving as fast as he could.

"I thought you told me to never mistreat your mule," the farmer told his neighbor with a questioning look on his face.  The farmer hesitated and said, "Like I said, talking nice to him works every time. But, sometimes you have to get his attention first."

I am all for reaching hearts and minds, but German entnazifizierung (denazification) could not happen until we had their attention by actually winning a war.

Re-education is much more effective as a post-war exercise.


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1 posted on 02/08/2009 3:44:50 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Would You Turn Your Cheek to a Terrorist?

No.

2 posted on 02/08/2009 3:51:23 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Kaslin
The only way that I would turn my cheek to any terrorist is if I have a round stuck in the chamber and needed to get it unstuck from the breech... otherwise I always keep my eyes and muzzle firmly aimed at my enemy!

LLS

3 posted on 02/08/2009 3:55:27 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Kaslin
Oh, and hussein is a traitorous enemy and muzzie by his own admission... this is no surprise that he capitulates with islamic terrorists... he is one of them!

LLS

4 posted on 02/08/2009 3:57:34 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Kaslin
Oh, and to quote Bill Bennett from this week, “ WE CANNOT LIVE ON THE SAME PLANET WITH THESE PEOPLE”.

LLS

5 posted on 02/08/2009 4:00:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Kaslin
Very interesting that the big ZERO connects "terrorist" with Arab.

By definition, "treeorists" deserve instant death.

6 posted on 02/08/2009 4:00:37 AM PST by exnavy (Democrats are NOT firearm friendly.)
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To: exnavy

Spel check is our friend. LOL “terrorists”


7 posted on 02/08/2009 4:01:58 AM PST by exnavy (Democrats are NOT firearm friendly.)
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To: Kaslin

“Would You Turn Your Cheek to a Terrorist?”

No, but I would shoot one in the head.


8 posted on 02/08/2009 4:06:29 AM PST by rlpfly ( PO BO)
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To: Kaslin
Democrats. Sometimes the sheet just fits.


9 posted on 02/08/2009 4:13:34 AM PST by Diogenesis (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Kaslin
It was simply because many “Christians” (all white ones, of course) found themselves sympathizing with some of what the Klan stood for. They preached a form of patriotic Americanism that resonated with many in America’s heartland – especially during that decade of seismic social change.

Wrong! Most Christians in the heartland would abhor the thought of treating others in an un-Christian way. A rather strong racist statement.

10 posted on 02/08/2009 4:14:03 AM PST by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Diogenesis

That has the making of an EPIC, did I say EPIC? Tagline!!!


11 posted on 02/08/2009 4:30:50 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Kaslin

“Mr. Obama reminded those gathered at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington the other day that he is not naïve. But some of the signals being sent by him and his administration are, at best, mixed on the subject. If you have to say you are tough, you’re probably not. And if you have to say you are not naïve, you just might be.”


Absolutely, this is exactly what is going to get us killed...

As for turning my cheek to a terrorist???

All I can say is that they’d better pack a lunch, because the cheek they would be kissing would take a little more time than usual to do so...


12 posted on 02/08/2009 4:35:21 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Kaslin

Do we enhance our family’s security and well being by denying evil.

Does any religion suggest we ignore evil and simply pretend that evil is good?


13 posted on 02/08/2009 4:57:49 AM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: Kaslin

What constitutes a ‘terrorists’? Does not any who use ‘fear’ to take control over life, liberty and pursuit of happiness qualify as terrorists? Liberals always, always pervert the meanings of words. They have a very long history of always making what is ‘right’ appear ‘wrong’ and what is ‘wrong’ have the image of being ‘right’.


14 posted on 02/08/2009 5:02:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Would You Turn Your Cheek to a Terrorist?

"Turning the other cheek" has been from the beginning something that one does for oneself. That is, while one may choose not to respond in kind to an attack on oneself, he cannot make that choice on behalf of someone else. So if there's a terrorist attack on the U.S. and Barry O should speciously say that the U.S. will "turn the other cheek" you can be sure that he has no moral authority to do so. Those in authority have a responsibility to protect those under their authority. This is true whether speaking of a parent or a president. Heads of state have a duty to protect their citizens, whether from other citizens within the nation or from enemies without. Those who fail to do that are declaring in the most obvious way possible that they are not fulfilling their duty and have joined the ranks of the enemies of the society they have sworn themselves to defend.

If it can be shown that keeping a strong military and the means to be able to respond to aggression will actually lessen the chance of aggression, then to deliberately dismantle the military and to cease operations against groups or nations that have already attacked or have already declared war against the nation is to declare oneself on the side of the enemy.

Those who say things like "showing ourselves to be vulnerable and trusting will let our "enemies" know they have nothing to fear from us and will encourage them to join us in celebrating our universal brotherhood" are simply nutcases.

Though it is true that if you have valuables locked away thieves will break in and steal, it doesn't follow that if you get rid of your locks and put a sign up to that effect your property will become safer from thieves.

Those who have been elected to public office who believe this and who start removing locks have themselves become a clear and present danger to the health and safety of the nation.
15 posted on 02/08/2009 5:36:46 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Kaslin

"Would You Turn Your Cheek to a Terrorist?"

...only far enough to obtain a good sight picture...

16 posted on 02/08/2009 5:38:32 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: Kaslin

“Mr. Obama reminded those gathered at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington the other day that he is not naïve. But some of the signals being sent by him and his administration are, at best, mixed on the subject. If you have to say you are tough, you’re probably not. And if you have to say you are not naïve, you just might be.”

Americans are the biggest fools in history, none can think until the news media tells them exactly what to think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8_kIDP4EQ0

Will the next attack be much worse than 9/11, how many Americans have to die before we call for the ONE to think and act like an adult?


17 posted on 02/08/2009 5:38:58 AM PST by BILL_C (ANSWER Palin is unqualified with SO IS OBAMA, but Gov.Palin is all American, and is NOT A MARXIST!)
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To: Kaslin

Would you turn your cheek to a terrorist after you shot him in the head and made sure he was no longer moving?


18 posted on 02/08/2009 6:15:44 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Kaslin
Somehow I do not think the American people will be able to “turn the other cheek” when Islamic terrorists attack a US grade school as they did in Breslan Russia, or drive a flaming gasoline tanker into a hospital or cause the agonizing deaths of thousands due to radiation poisoning from a dirty bomb blast in a major US city. Sadly they will turn their wrath on all Muslims much as we did with the Japanese in WW-II. I could see as a result a call for rounding up all foreign Muslims and placing them into detention camps and the closing of all mosques in the US. The American people are slow to anger, but if provoked to an extreme they will seek the total annihilation of the evil doers.
19 posted on 02/08/2009 6:18:35 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: aruanan
"Turning the other cheek" has been from the beginning something that one does for oneself. That is, while one may choose not to respond in kind to an attack on oneself, he cannot make that choice on behalf of someone else. So if there's a terrorist attack on the U.S. and Barry O should speciously say that the U.S. will "turn the other cheek" you can be sure that he has no moral authority to do so. Those in authority have a responsibility to protect those under their authority. This is true whether speaking of a parent or a president. Heads of state have a duty to protect their citizens, whether from other citizens within the nation or from enemies without. Those who fail to do that are declaring in the most obvious way possible that they are not fulfilling their duty and have joined the ranks of the enemies of the society they have sworn themselves to defend. If it can be shown that keeping a strong military and the means to be able to respond to aggression will actually lessen the chance of aggression, then to deliberately dismantle the military and to cease operations against groups or nations that have already attacked or have already declared war against the nation is to declare oneself on the side of the enemy. Those who say things like "showing ourselves to be vulnerable and trusting will let our "enemies" know they have nothing to fear from us and will encourage them to join us in celebrating our universal brotherhood" are simply nutcases. Though it is true that if you have valuables locked away thieves will break in and steal, it doesn't follow that if you get rid of your locks and put a sign up to that effect your property will become safer from thieves. Those who have been elected to public office who believe this and who start removing locks have themselves become a clear and present danger to the health and safety of the nation.

Terrorists need NOT use literal physical violence to be terrorists.... There can be all manner of 'threats' to instill 'fear' used to accomplish goals. I see the violent in mass destruction terrorist used as the engine of distraction by the preening 'we care for the children' liberal liars. And Bama's way to me appears as a veiled threat against a civilized law and order society, while crying 'I am' here to bring, 'peace', 'peace', 'peace' and 'prosperity'.

Simply put I do not think Bama sees these 'terrorists' as the literal threat they are, but rather his companion in reestablishing an old order.

20 posted on 02/08/2009 6:20:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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