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CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGYStrategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis
DiscoverTheNetwork.org ^ | Feb 14, 2005 | DiscoverTheNetwork.org

Posted on 02/06/2009 6:59:01 PM PST by Veritas_Warrior

CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY

* Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

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I think this is what Obama, Soros and their collective ilk have in mind for us beginning with Obama's election and now this porkulus bill.

Note this article was originally posted in 2005, yet more timely than ever.

1 posted on 02/06/2009 6:59:02 PM PST by Veritas_Warrior
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To: Veritas_Warrior
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Cheers!

2 posted on 02/06/2009 7:00:30 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

As someone mentioned it started in 1977 with CRA. This is exactly what is going on. SOros and hedge fund pals Florwers and Paulson (not henry but John) shorted them one by one with nake shorting, naked CDS and rumors to wipe em out one by one.

This bill will fund millions of Democrat cadre throughg ACORN, SEIU, CAIR, La RAZA etc. You can forget about the 2010 elections or any future elections.

Unless a case gets to SCOTUS to expose this fraud then it is pretty much over. The GOP are cowards and will not stop this. We were set up with the same clever EVIL planning like 9/11 with bin laden.


3 posted on 02/06/2009 7:04:05 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

This “financial crisis” was NO ACCIDENT. It was planned this way.


4 posted on 02/06/2009 7:04:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Elections have consequences.)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

Good find.


5 posted on 02/06/2009 7:06:01 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Veritas_Warrior

I thought that was the “Hegelian Principle”.


6 posted on 02/06/2009 7:09:44 PM PST by Califreak (Stimulus-paying back donors and vote farming)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

Its not that they are going to do it, they have DONE it.

From the early days of the socialist party, their leaders talked about long slow progress, and that you can destabilize your enemy by stirring up chaos. I think we just saw the Socialist end game.

First the left wing media starts tanking the economy by talking about a housing collapse when no such thing was happening. This is what hastened the downfall of the banks. (Soros)

Then the left failed to stop the potential danger when it was becoming obvious the medias efforts were paying off.

Next they attacked Bush who was a lame duck and losing popularity. This is where they created the doom and gloom. Look at the message. Change and Hope. Two words conned 60 million people. How can that not have been all played out the way they wanted.

A ‘black’ man who they could use to play the impenetrable race card. And a black man who was a follower and a die hard socialist. Give Obama an ounce of credit for being deceitful and subversive. He can lie about being a centrist all day long until everything is up and running and then he is pretty much done.

I think they played it perfectly since they are in control of everything right now.

Fortunately for us, it doesn’t take generations to convince people that the free market is the way to go. People won’t stand for this for long.


7 posted on 02/06/2009 7:13:32 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

Yes, very timely. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 02/06/2009 7:15:12 PM PST by PGalt
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bttt


9 posted on 02/06/2009 7:16:12 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This “financial crisis” was NO ACCIDENT. It was planned this way.

I agree, Biden speaking at a democratic fund raiser during the primary mentioned a fabricated crisis that will test Obama and the decisions made will not make the people happy. This Cloward Piven strategy I believe was tested in NY under the Guliani administation when the lower masses were instucted to bombard the city welfare agency with tons of applications, forcing thier collapse. This is an assault on the American people and must be put down!


10 posted on 02/06/2009 7:20:37 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Is it time for my medication, reality is starting to set in.)
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I agree.


11 posted on 02/06/2009 7:22:36 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Elections have consequences.)
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To: Veritas_Warrior

Bookmark & BTTT !!


12 posted on 02/06/2009 7:33:21 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Respectfully, if the current ruling class, oligarchy, is overthrown---are we overthrowing statists or capitalists?

My position is that Collins and the other Senators (in addition to many enabling senators who will vote no) who will vote for ths stimuulus are statists.

So, this current socialist economic crisis may well work in the inverse-working class capitalists may arise to overthrow the existing socialism.

13 posted on 02/06/2009 7:51:33 PM PST by VinL (VinL---former username (wegotsarah.com))
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I think that strategy is quite different from what is happening now. The C-P strategy involves starving the poor so that they revolt — sounds like an update of the old Marxist idea that the workers are so badly off that they will start the Revolution. Of course, the poor nowadays in the US are mostly non-workers.....


14 posted on 02/06/2009 7:58:29 PM PST by expatpat
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To: ronnie raygun

The financial crisis was probably not a conspiracy, except in the sense that it was triggered early so as to get a Democrat elected. However, it was coming anyway.


15 posted on 02/06/2009 8:00:45 PM PST by expatpat
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[ The financial crisis was probably not a conspiracy ]

Barney Frank and Dodd ran freddie and fanny into the ground ON PURPOSE.. it was not an accident..

16 posted on 02/06/2009 8:26:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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“The financial crisis was probably not a conspiracy, except in the sense that it was triggered early so as to get a Democrat elected. However, it was coming anyway.”

expatpat, I was going to disagree with you until I read your post more closely. I think you have it exactly right. George Soros was actively working to trigger just the situation we have now in order to bring socialism to the US.

And definitely some sort of financial tough times were ahead. My only, slight quibble with you is that without Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelousy, and the rest doing their thing, we might have avoided the tremendous depression and long night of socialism we appear headed for now.


17 posted on 02/07/2009 5:54:08 AM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (Patriotism to DemocRats is like sunlight to Dracula.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I have been saying this since Lehman went down. Feld would not take the offer he was given week prior, and Warrne Buffet offered him same deal as Goldman Sachs and Feld refused. Feld gave Obama $440,000 in campaign contributions last summer on top of donations to other dems and the DNC.

CAPM was used to overballoon those subprime values, and it was no accident that the dems pushed subprimes to people who couldn’t repay. I believe this whole thing was preplanned to create an “opportunity” for marxism/communism.

I also believe this huge trillion dollars is to “break America” financially so no more wars can be waged, and this is all about world control. Obama is playing to a higher stage, and it isn’t God.


18 posted on 02/07/2009 1:26:01 PM PST by Kackikat (.It's NOT over until it's over and it's NOT over yet....The Trumpet will sound....)
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Yes, I think you’re right.

More people need to be aware of this strategy, examine it and apply what they’ve learned to the current situation. So much of what we are watching makes no sense to so many of us - until we start reading about the beliefs of those who were influential to so many of the liberals democrats that are in power today.

Don’t take my word for it, go read for yourself.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

Coincidentally, there is another piece in AT today that examines Cloward/Piven:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/the_clowardpiven_strategy_of_e.html


19 posted on 02/07/2009 2:35:14 PM PST by turfmann
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I know it makes me feel like a nutjob conspiracy theorist, but the facts can not be ignored. I wish someone could show me how I am wrong, but I see that all of this was set in motion and is being hastened.


20 posted on 02/07/2009 9:59:09 PM PST by Veritas_Warrior
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