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To: Red Steel

Correct. The British head of state was/is a hereditary ruler who was interested in expanding his realm by including as many new subjects as possible; we, however, have a HoS who is an elected president—an office which must not be filled by a person with any allegiance to any foreign power.


634 posted on 02/07/2009 4:10:04 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Red Steel

Since the obfuscators seem to be citing Wong Ark on this thread, perhaps they should consider this part:

The following passage is a quote from Minor v. Happersett as quoted by Justice Gray in Wong Kim Ark:

” ‘At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country, of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient, for everything we have now to consider, that all children, born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction, are themselves citizens.’ Minor v. Happersett (1874) 21 Wall. 162, 166-168.”


653 posted on 02/07/2009 6:58:08 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Red Steel

From the Natural Born Citizen blog:

Look at that, you have Justice Gray citing the court in Minor who are themselves citing the “Laws of Nations” definition (they didn’t directly cite that treatise but the definition used is taken therefrom) of natural born citizen = person born in US to “citizen parents” = nbc .

In Minor, they clearly established who was a “natural born citizen” beyond any doubt, a definition that does not include Obama. As to persons born in the US to foreign parents they said, as directly quoted in Wong Kim Ark by Justice Gray, “As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.“


654 posted on 02/07/2009 7:00:34 AM PST by Scanian
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