Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'

Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

[Cyropaedia]

Wrong. They've obtained physical copies of certified, Hawaiian CoLB's, and they have the different seals from the one in the FactCheck photos.

You're the one making the assumptions. Get lost troll.

[editor-surveyor]

Now I know you’re a paid troll!

Yes, Ayers is in substantial control of Annenberg’s operations.

[Scanian]

Maybe that’s because he’s a regurgitated troll.

[Michael Michael]

They've obtained physical copies of certified, Hawaiian CoLB's, and they have the different seals from the one in the FactCheck photos.

I'm well aware of that.

What you don't seem to understand is that that does not itself prove the assertion that a seal used on documents issued in 2006 and 2008 could not or would not have been used on a document issued in 2007.

Without some sort of substantiation from the Hawaii Department of Health that it was not possible for such a seal to have been used on a certificate issued in 2007, all one can say is that Obama's 2007 certificate has the same seal on it as certificates issued in 2006 and 2008. That's it. No other meaningful conclusions can be drawn.

[Scanian]

I’ve pretty much concluded that his problem is that his ambition in life was to be captain of a college debate team. He likes argument for argument’s sake. Never mind that he’s helping to prop up a potential tyrant.

[sometime lurker]

William Ayers runs most of Annenberg.

Can you substantiate that he runs the Annenberg public policy center as opposed to the educational project in Chicago? And if you maintain Ayers runs the public policy center, why did Vice President Cheney direct the public to the Fact Check site?

[Scanian]

Oh, but he’s a sustaining member of the conservative movement! (see #834)

[sometime lurker]

I haven’t posted anything that you have disproven. I’ve been civil in my tone. How does that make me a troll? Because I can testify that I can’t recall babies I’ve delivered? Because I correct misunderstandings of HIPAA laws?

If I’m wrong about the HIPAA laws, please show where.

[fallingwater]

I believe Obama was born in the United States, a child of the tooth fairy and easter bunny.

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That explains why he is a hybird.

[Wil H]

Nice try, you keep changing the subject and posing irrelevant questions.

You spend hours on a political forum and then claim you don’t like to discuss politics, sure....

But your manipulations don’t deflect us from the original argument.

0bama is a fraud, and hasn’t produced sufficient documentation to prove he is a natural born citizen.

The only live witness that claims they were at his birth say it happened in Mombassa - now I don’t think his grandmother can very easily be passed off as mistaken - after all, she probably doesn’t have any other WHITE daughters-in-law, so if she says she was there, I would be inclined to believe her.

You can obfuscate, and change the question all you want - it won’t change the fact that it appears that 0bama can’t prove he is a natural born citizen.

[curiosity]

Yes, Ayers is in substantial control of Annenberg’s operations.

Prove it.

[null and void]

now I don’t think his grandmother can very easily be passed off as mistaken - after all, she probably doesn’t have any other WHITE daughters-in-law

Ummmm, actually Barak Sr. married another white gal after he divorced Stanley Ann.

[mlo]

"Because your leftie opinion is negated by the facts."

I didn't just provide my opinion. I provided a decision by the United States Supreme Court that specified what was excluded by "under the jurisdiction".

What facts have you provided?

Do you not care about what is really true and what isn't, or do you just want to believe what you like and not have that disturbed? If that's what you want, trying to debate people on the internet is probably a bad idea.

[curiosity]

The only live witness that claims they were at his birth say it happened in Mombassa

That is simply not true. Stop making stuff up.

[mlo]

Is Factcheck.org "in the tank for" Obama? Is Factcheck.org owned by the Chicago Annenberg Foundation?

[Cyropaedia]

What you don't seem to understand is that that does not itself prove the assertion that a seal used on documents issued in 2006 and 2008 could not or would not have been used on a document issued in 2007.

You're grasping at straws. They alternate the seal design from year to year. This isn't something that is done arbitrarily. For example, the border design is alternated from year to year. The border on a 2007 CoLB is different from one in 2008. The borders and seals are supposed to match for the corresponding year. Again, alternating of designs isn't done for arbitrary reasons.

[curiosity]

They alternate the seal design from year to year.

So you say. Now substantiate your assertion.

[mlo]

"So why not refer them to the other post and repost the bold phrases only? Consider my idea and comment a friendly reminder about 'ducks'."

Because it's only a couple of paragraphs and I consider keeping that small amount of context, and having it right there without having to follow a link, a good thing. I can't see why it should be a bad thing.

[editor-surveyor]

The stuff you jerks don't like to talk about

[curiosity]

Okay, I looked at your link. I could find no evidence that Ayers runs the Annenberg Foundation. But perhaps I am dense.

Please direct me to the the specific place where this supposed proof of yours resides.