Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A pathetic case for an old earth
CMI ^ | Lita Cosner

Posted on 02/05/2009 5:00:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-183 next last
To: tacticalogic

4.5 billion isnt hard to accept, if it were true, but the plain normal reading of genesis and the evidence supports six days better.


61 posted on 02/05/2009 8:17:31 PM PST by raygunfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

==Then why is the prospect of a 4.5 billion year old Earth so hard to accept?

Because it contradicts God’s word. Although, I must admit I find a six day creation far more impressive than 4.5 billion years. Can you imagine if Rome actually was built in a day!


62 posted on 02/05/2009 8:18:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: raygunfan
Oh -- this is the image that came to mind:

"sic munce ago i cudnt even spell
Cumundikatr
Conumidikater
Cornumicator
Comunnekater
--and now i are one..."

Perhaps you're a bit young to have been a Mad Magazine fan...'-}

63 posted on 02/05/2009 8:22:46 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law

And Jesus affirmed Scripture.

Are you calling Jesus ignorant? You’re free to do so: It’s a free country.


64 posted on 02/05/2009 8:28:22 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: raygunfan
sorry, the bible says six days.....nothing limiting to God at all by a normal reading and straightforward meaning of the text....

But Au Contraire........the Bible says [Genesis 1:2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The word I underlined (but) in the Hebrew is "hayah" and this is its Hebrew meaning: 1961. hayah (haw-yaw) to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary)

A better translation of the verse would thus be: And the earth became without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

This word "hayah" is translated correctly in [II Samuel 7:24] For thou hast confirmed to thyself thy people Israel to be a people unto thee for ever: and thou, LORD, art become (hayah) their God.

The fact that this is a past tense word implies a previous creation because [Genesis 1:1] says this: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. In verse two we learn that there is already an Earth, Waters, the Deep and Darkness (not to mention the heaven of verse one). These five things already exist before God said "let there be light".....!

Now, this in no way implies that this was a creation of light. God just says: "Let there be light"....as if it already existed.....and had just been turned off for some reason.

Genesis 1:3 is simply the starting point of a restoration of the already existing Earth back to what it may have been before.....and is called the first day. There quite possibly may have been billions of years between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.........

65 posted on 02/05/2009 8:37:12 PM PST by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


66 posted on 02/05/2009 8:38:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Diego1618

wrong, but thanx for playing our game.


67 posted on 02/05/2009 8:39:23 PM PST by raygunfan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Diego1618

Correction: paragraph two. The word I underlined is “was”....not “but”.


68 posted on 02/05/2009 8:41:11 PM PST by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: raygunfan
wrong, but thanx for playing our game.

Your welcome. Why don't you expostulate a bit so we can find my error?

69 posted on 02/05/2009 8:43:24 PM PST by Diego1618
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Theo
"Are you calling Jesus ignorant?"

Now you are just being insulting. I am not doubting creation, I just don't believe that it is heretical to lift the hood and marvel at the processes created by and used by God to introduce life into a dynamic universe. On the contrary, I think it is sacrilegious to think that God is limited to abracadabra like processes. (if you research the word abracadabra you will find it is Aramaic in origin).

70 posted on 02/05/2009 8:45:30 PM PST by Natural Law
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: TXnMA; GodGunsGuts
Thank you for sharing your testimony, dear GodGunsGuts!

And thank you for the ping, dear TXnMA!

71 posted on 02/05/2009 8:51:41 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: raygunfan

mega-dittoes!


72 posted on 02/05/2009 9:09:26 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

Comment #73 Removed by Moderator

Comment #74 Removed by Moderator

To: OneWingedShark
1. Abiogensis is not discussed in evolutionary theory.
2. Phagocytosis.
3. Sexual reproduction permits the sharing of genetic material, not merely the reproduction of it.
75 posted on 02/05/2009 9:45:13 PM PST by stormer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
Hey, if the Lord doesn’t convict you, then you haven’t been chosen (yet). It’s that simple. The Temple of Darwin (read: materialist evolution) is for those who still hide their face from God.

There you go again dumping on a dead white European male. Again, you avoid answering my question as to why creationists are so arrogant as to believe their creation myth is the true one over all the others that mankind has produced.

76 posted on 02/05/2009 10:26:52 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Natural Law

That’s the Plan


77 posted on 02/06/2009 12:11:14 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Fiji Hill
During the seventeenth century, Archbishop James Ussher of the Church of Ireland determined that the earth was created on October 23, 4004 BC at 9:00 AM—and I assume that was Pacific Daylight Time.

GMT (and midday in the MidEast)

78 posted on 02/06/2009 12:15:25 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: TXnMA
When I consider the state of American Protestantism, I am filled with complete despair. I have tried to witness to people who have either been scarred by fundamentalist legalism and/or they have been told that in order to be a Christian they have to believe, as you correctly call it, the YEC heresy.

Everything I see points people away from Christ and toward their own works in one way or another. Liberalism has the Gospel of Marx, enough said. Mainstream evangelicalism is mostly self help pop culture. Fundamentalism keeps Christ hidden behind a ton of baggage. Maybe God has left us to our own devices so our culture can, quite deservedly, self-destruct.

79 posted on 02/06/2009 1:56:40 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 59 | View Replies]

To: raygunfan
4.5 billion isnt hard to accept, if it were true, but the plain normal reading of genesis and the evidence supports six days better.

What evidence is there to support the theory that what appears to be 4.5 billion years worth of uranium decay happened in less than 6000 years, without releasing the amount of heat that should have been associated with that decay?

80 posted on 02/06/2009 3:37:01 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-183 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson