Posted on 02/04/2009 4:14:49 AM PST by markomalley
The case of the 33-year-old California woman still living with her parents, and who just gave birth to eight —- count ‘em, eight —- babies, has captured the attention of the country, if not the world. As the details of this unusual medical event become known, more and more Americans are expressing surprise if not shock at the manner in which the woman became soooo pregnant, and of her background. They shouldn’t be.
The strange case of Nadya Suleman is but the latest example of a society in which the unusual is glorified; the most extreme behavior rewarded; and the most intimate details of human activities plastered all over the Internet, television and tabloids.
Suleman is custom-made to have become the latest pseudo celebrity on the interview-for-pay circuit. She doesn’t work. She lives with her parents even though she is 33 years old. She is unmarried. She already had six —- that’s right, six —- other young children in addition to the latest litter of eight. And the eight new mouths to feed were the result not of natural conception, but a carefully planned project whereby an apparently willing doctor implanted eight embryos in the woman so she could thereby become a celebrity.
Even as her eight latest babies, born prematurely late last month, remained under medical care, the mother and her parents were jockeying to maximize the money they hoped to receive for the not-exactly-miraculous event. If recent similar episodes by other “celebrities” are any example, Suleman will become rich. After all, does not every Hollywood celebrity couple who adopts or gives birth to a child or children immediately hold a bidding war for the right to photograph the little darlings for the tabloids? Is not every celebrity scandal followed by a rise in the person’s celebrity status...
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Have we seen any pics to be able to render a verdict? On the facts this deranged woman would seem to be guilty of horrible judgment.
A good case could be made that she’s clinically insane, and therefore all her children should be adopted by normal couples who will provide a suitable upbringing. On the other hand, it’s California, so they’d probably be placed with gays. Six of one, half a dozen of the other ...
The state should take all of the kids away but then again, the state doesn't have the money to take care of then, either.
She wants to go on Oprah and make millions. So you can bet some will be named Barack, Hussien, Barry and Michelle.
The BIG QUESTION is, are these people even AMERICAN CITIZENS?
That would be the compassionate thing to do:
“A good case could be made that she’s clinically insane, and therefore all her children should be adopted by normal couples who will provide a suitable upbringing. “
I suspect she’s a Muslim. The last name sounds like a variation of Suleiman, a fierce Muslim leader from the area of aroud Turkey/the Ottoman Empire.
On Monday night I heard on either O’Reilly or Hannity that the embryos that were implanted were all fathered by the same donor, a Middle-easterner. I could be wrong, but current knowledge leads me to believe this.
I remember the uproar when the Dionne quintuplets were removed from their poor parents and taken by the state.
The poor farmers kept the babies warm on the stove if I remember correctly.
Reading about it years later I was horrified, but after reading about this unbalanced woman having fourteen babies, I understand better the need for intervention.
But we’re not allowed to be concerned about what’s best for the children, because that might, at some philosophical distance, challenge the woman’s “right” to kill them.
That aside, if anyone cares about their being productive citizens at some point, or about relieving the taxpayers of the cost of their care, adoption by married, U.S. Citizen, self-supporting couples with good health insurance is the complete solution. And there is a waiting list of people of that description who would take them.
It seems like months since this arse*ole has been installed. He's in a rush to destroy this country. Already we are the laughing stock of the world. Even the silly President of Iran sees that “capitalism” is now dead.
From a thread yesterday:
Very interesting angle:
When the ethnicity of the mother was stated in the 1/21/09 New York Post piece. (she is Palestinan) I recalled a think a story I read in The New York TImes a few months back, during the “truce.” Hamas equates the breeding of a new generation of fighters with Jihad. It seems to me as long as we’re considering emotional or financial motivation, we should throw political motivation in the mix.
A reprint of the NY TIMES piece follows:
NY TIMES 10/31/08
Gaza Journal
For War Widows, Hamas Recruits Army of Husbands
By TAGHREED EL-KHODARY
Published: October 30, 2008
GAZA — The grooms were resplendent in white shirts while the brides all wore black. At a sports stadium one recent October evening, thousands of Palestinians — 300 newly married couples along with relatives and friends — gathered for a mass wedding celebration, the 10th here this year courtesy of Hamas.
Hamas, the militant Islamist group that controls Gaza, has been observing a truce with Israel since June, allowing its underground fighters to resurface but leaving them without much to do. At the same time, hundreds of the group’s women have been recently widowed, their husbands having been killed either in confrontations with Israel or in the fighting last year between Hamas and its secular rival, Fatah.
Taking advantage of the pause in violence, the Hamas leaders have turned to matchmaking, bringing together single fighters and widows, and providing dowries and wedding parties for the many here who cannot afford such trappings of matrimony.
“Marriage is the same as jihad,” or holy war, said Muhammad Yousef, one recently married member of the Qassam Brigades, the Hamas underground. “With marriage, you are producing another generation that believes in resistance.”
About 300 Qassam members, mostly in their 20s, signed up with their new wives for the most recent celebration, held at a sports stadium in the Tuffah district, east of Gaza City. Local mosques spread the word about the event and offered to help find spouses for single men whose families had not yet managed to arrange them a match.
As an added inducement, couples were promised a cash grant in lieu of a dowry, which few families could afford. But the economic embargo on Gaza, spearheaded by the Israelis who, like the United States and the European Union, classify Hamas as a terrorist organization, somewhat dampened the celebrations. While the poorest couples received a gift equivalent to $2,000, many others in less dire straits came away with only $200.
“That’s the cost of a plank of wood for a bedroom suite,” said one disappointed bride, Ola Dalo, 21, as she leaned her head on her new husband, Ali Msabah, 24.
Wael al-Zard, head of Al Taysir, an association affiliated with Hamas that tries to provide its fighters with the means to marry, said that many Muslims who used to contribute money from the Persian Gulf states had stopped transferring funds “out of fear.”
To make up some of the shortfall, Ismail Haniya, the head of the Hamas government in Gaza, made a personal contribution of $30,000 to the Tuffah group wedding, while another senior Hamas leader, Mahmoud Zahar, contributed $10,000.
“Your money is not going to casinos,” Mr. Zard declared during the wedding event. His point was that the donations would be devoted only to furthering the Islamist agenda, and not going to line officials’ pockets, an accusation widely leveled against the previous rulers from Fatah. “There will be more weddings, and no one will remain single.”
The 300 grooms were dressed in black pants, white shirts and colorful ties but no jackets, because of recent budget cuts. The brides, sitting separately among the women, wore head scarves and black robes over their evening dresses but were easily spotted by their heavy makeup. The couples had all signed marriage contracts before the event.
The grooms danced on the stage as a male singer extolled the virtues of married life. Ehab Adas, 25, one of the grooms, said he missed fighting but was keeping busy working as a secretary at the Interior Ministry. He pointed out his bride in the crowd, and proudly displayed the last text message he had received from her on his mobile phone. “Today is my real wedding,” it read. He had replied simply, “I love you.”
Although Hamas has long organized joint weddings, it is now doing so with more verve, placing special emphasis on remarrying its war widows. One of them, Amani Saed, 24, attended the mass wedding with her two young sons from her first marriage, Rami, 5, and Muhammad, 3. Their father, Khaled Saed, was killed at the age of 28 during the clashes between Hamas and Fatah in August 2007.
Eight months after Khaled’s death, his father sought Amani’s hand for his younger son, Muhammad, 22, who also worked at the Interior Ministry. Amani said she reluctantly agreed. “Muhammad is younger. It’s hard, but it’s good for the kids,” she said.
Muhammad Yousef, the groom who equated marriage with jihad, came to celebrate and collect $200 even though his family is considered reasonably well off. In July 2006, an Israeli tank crew fired in his direction as he and his group fired rockets at Israel. He was badly wounded in the chest and both legs, and his friends took him for dead and celebrated his “martyrdom” on the way to the hospital morgue.
But he survived, and because of his severe physical injuries, moved from firing rockets to manufacturing them instead. Mr. Yousef said he shared all the details of his past with his wife before they married, and she accepted his way of life wholeheartedly. The night before the mass wedding party, he said, his wife shared with him her ultimate wish: to carry out a joint suicide attack.
It doesn’t matter! We’re gonna pick up the tab anyway!
I heard the family has some Palestinian background. It made me wonder if she and the donor were intent on making a significant contribution of bodies for jihad. These people are so twisted in their thinking that I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised. The game plan, after all, is to outbreed us.
It’s going to be a long four years.
Is there any kind of investigation going on of the fertility clinic?
See, this is where the extremes of mixed emotions comes in. This whole thing is just wrong, but from the humanitarian standpoint—you are not going to see me take this stand often—you cannot blame the babies. They did not have a part in this. They need to be taken away and raised in a healthy environment. Then send her back to wherever she came from, the whole rat pack of them.
No matter what her motives, no matter if she’s competent or not, there needs to be an investigation of the doctor/clinic that performed the IVF.
It’s simply NOT ethical to use the procedure on a woman who has six children already.
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