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Wreck of HMS Victory 'recovered from Channel'
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^
| 01 Feb 2009
| Jon Swaine
Posted on 02/01/2009 4:24:28 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Which is why they had cabin boys. But soon they became cabin men. :o)
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posted on
02/01/2009 5:32:14 PM PST
by
Future Snake Eater
("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
To: Future Snake Eater
But soon they became cabin men. :o) Semen First Class, no doubt.
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posted on
02/01/2009 5:42:31 PM PST
by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Jimmy Carter -- the first white Barack Obama.)
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posted on
02/01/2009 5:50:00 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
The thing which surprises me is that a ship of that era had well over a thousand sailors on it
HMS Mary Rose of Henry VIII sank in 1545 with around 700 on it.
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posted on
02/01/2009 5:54:12 PM PST
by
razbinn
(I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
To: Oztrich Boy
My husband, who has read many many military and historical novels, says it was written you could "smell" the ship over the horizon as there were over 1100 sailors on a 200 foot long ship. I know you all wanted to know that. :-) Cordio
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posted on
02/01/2009 6:22:48 PM PST
by
Cordio
To: PotatoHeadMick
Present
sink
Past
sank
Past Participle
was sunk
Who taught these people their English, specifically verb forms?? the word they are looking for is, SANK. The ship SANK. They can say "was sunk" but the correct "past" form is SANK. argh.... /rant
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posted on
02/01/2009 6:49:20 PM PST
by
redhead
(Don't look at ME! I voted for Sarah!)
To: PotatoHeadMick
Just saw this on a discovery program Friday evening. They were using a code name for the Victory so that it would not reveal anything to other hunters. I suspected that it was Victory but the show did not take the exploration through to the final identification.
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posted on
02/01/2009 6:57:08 PM PST
by
RJS1950
(The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
To: yarddog
In the book “Seize The Fire” Adam Nicolson describes in horrific gory detail how at the Battle of Trafalgar the English cannonballs fired into the rear of the French and Spanish ships at close range,tore down the whole length of those ships doing absolute murder on the men packed into the gun-decks.
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posted on
02/01/2009 8:30:46 PM PST
by
fella
(.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
To: Oztrich Boy
Wow! Man/gun ratio gun going up fast. Let me attempt to “buy now”. I bid 50 men/gun!
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posted on
02/03/2009 1:47:05 AM PST
by
tdscpa
To: tdscpa
Oops! I got too many guns in there. But then, I always hear here it is not possible to have too many guns. Let me hide (conceal) one.
Wow! Man/gun ratio going up fast. Let me attempt to buy now. I bid 50 men/gun!
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posted on
02/03/2009 1:59:17 AM PST
by
tdscpa
To: PotatoHeadMick
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posted on
02/03/2009 2:10:46 AM PST
by
bmwcyle
(I have no President as of Jan 20th 2009. No Congress either.)
To: tdscpa
I thought of taking a WAG, but decided to check the internets first
The Method and Procedures of Nelson's Navy
The Gun Crew
The large cannon of a ship of the line needed a crew of up to eight men to load and fire it and another six to eight men to man the recoil rigging and run out the gun when loaded. The gun crew included:
- Gun captain
- Second gun captain
- Handspikeman
- Loader
- Sponger
- Assistant loader
- Assistant sponger
- Powderman
Most of the "gun gew" estimates overlook the muscle guys need to run the guns out for firing as they may not have been assigned to a specific gun, and were also the damage control men.
Smaller guns you may be able to operate without Handspikeman, Assistant loaders and Assistant spongers.
The site I originally checked gave a total of 8 for a 12 pdr (c.40 on the upper decks), 12 for a 24 pdr (c.30 on the middle deck) and 14 for a 32pdr (c.30 on the lower deck)
In the mid-18th century a First Rate would be carrying 42pdrs on the lower deck - replaced by 32pdrs in the early 19th mainly because of the extra crew needed for the heavier gun)
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posted on
02/03/2009 5:28:36 AM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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