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No Evidence Workers Leaving U.S
The Sacramento Bee ^ | Jan. 15, 2009 | Susan Ferriss

Posted on 01/16/2009 4:32:51 PM PST by kellynla

Flor Gutierrez has a bird's eye view of how immigrants – 37 percent of California's labor force – are reacting so far to a punishing recession.

She runs El Mercadito Latino in Elk Grove, where Mexicans and Central Americans shop and wire money to family back in their home countries. In December, she said, customers wired the same amount of money as they always have during a holiday month. But Gutierrez is bracing for a plunge.

"They definitely are buying less for themselves," she said. "We may see people getting by with less here, so they can continue to help out those back home who are even worse off."

Gutierrez's observations mirror what researchers at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan Washington, D.C., think tank, describe in a report issued Wednesday.

"Immigrants and the Current Economic Crisis" reviews statistical research and other information and concludes that there is no hard evidence of illegal or legal immigrants leaving in droves because jobs have dried up.

In addition to agriculture, immigrants are concentrated in construction, manufacturing and services, industries that have been battered by the downturn.

No doubt, tough times have already prompted some to leave U.S. soil and produced a "flattening" in the estimated number of illegal immigrants entering to seek jobs since 2007, said Demetrios Papademetriou, president of the Migration Policy Institute, which studies U.S. and global migration trends and policies.

But home countries, especially those tightly linked to the U.S. economy, such as Mexico and those in Central America, are not hospitable places to search for work, either.

Drug trafficking violence and crime in Mexico are disincentives to returning, as is immigrants' strong sense of responsibility to provide for family, the report says.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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To: kellynla

Why would they leave? Those who hang around will be rewarded with lots and lots of PIE!


21 posted on 01/16/2009 6:47:54 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: kellynla
a nonpartisan Washington, D.C., think tank

Always used to depict a far left group.

22 posted on 01/16/2009 6:54:18 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: kellynla

i drove thru’ carlsbad and orange county and saw,

what i presume to be,

illegals standing on the streets waiting to be picked up to work.


23 posted on 01/16/2009 7:04:55 PM PST by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: kellynla
no hard evidence of illegal or legal immigrants leaving in droves because jobs have dried up

Why should they? PEBO is going to give each of them welfare "tax cuts" and a citizenship...

24 posted on 01/16/2009 7:05:59 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: ken21

yep...these stories that you read about ICE picking up forty or fifty illegals is laughable...I can take ICE to Santa Ana right across the street from the Federal building or downtown L.A. and pick up THOUSANDS of illegals...and lets not forget in front of practically EVERY Home Depot in America!


25 posted on 01/16/2009 7:24:13 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


26 posted on 01/16/2009 9:34:18 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: tbw2
Why should they? They don't want "indio sucios y mulattos/"Sudacas."

Actually, when I was in Barcelona, all of the drudge work (street cleaning, vending, housekeeping) was done by the Ecuadorians and Peruvians. Lots of Filipinos in the hospitality industry over there as well. Then you have the African girls plying their tricks on the Ramblas.

Lots of South Americans are going to Italy as well. This is especially true if they can prove at least one Italian grandparent, which all but entitles them to citizenship (lots of Italians settled in South America, you may recall). Lots of Ecuadorians working on construction sites in Milan and Rome until the recent crash in the real estate market over there.

27 posted on 01/16/2009 9:42:45 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: John123

>>PEBO is going to give each of them welfare “tax cuts” and a citizenship... <<

They had a promise of amnesty no matter who won the election. Bush, McCain, BO, all want them to stay here, and apparently want them to keep coming in.

However, IMO BO is foolish if he pushes amnesty before his health care. It should be pretty obvious that adding 20 million illegals who, before they arrived here, had not gotten decent health care, is going to make BO’s health care a lot more expensive. Instead, BO could try to pass his health care program first, and pretend that the illegals are not covered, while sneaking in options to allow covering them.


28 posted on 01/16/2009 10:12:52 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: kellynla
I go to the DMV in Hillsboro whenever we need to do DMV work. Since 95 it has taken 2 to 4 hours just to speak with a rep. The law changed last Feb requiring all applicants to have valid ssn and matching birth certificate. This last year I am called to a rep before I have completed filling out the paperwork (about 5 minutes). I don't know where everyone has gone but DMV is much quieter now.
29 posted on 01/17/2009 1:09:47 AM PST by Dan12180 (Prayers and faith vanquish all)
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To: Dan12180

They’re probably just not getting DLs any more. I don’t know why they want them anyway...they might get ticketed, which they ignore, but don’t get arrested just for not having a DL or insurance. Up here in Ohio, they don’t really need a DL for identification either, most every place accepts a matricular consular card for everything, including banking.


30 posted on 01/17/2009 3:22:03 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: kellynla

Of course they are not going home. There’s plenty of our tax dollars being used to support them here.


31 posted on 01/17/2009 4:04:30 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Dan12180
“I don't know where everyone has gone but DMV is much quieter now.”

Well let me inform you, they haven't gone home.

Why should they! They drive without insurance & a driver's license and if for some reason they get a ticket, do you think they are gonna show up for court? Nooooooooooooo...

These people are gonna stay here for the free food, free medical care, free housing, free education and NO TAXES! Shezzzzzzzzzzzzzz...would you leave? LOL

We could DEMAND that every person in America who wanted a job speak English & PROVE their presence LEGALLY and these people would just start doing what many are and have been doing for decades...dealing drugs, stealing, robbing... whatever it takes to stay here.

Sooner or later we are gonna have to “take out the trash!”

32 posted on 01/17/2009 5:07:43 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: DangerZone
Problem is they have imported the poverty and gang violence of Mexico into the US!
33 posted on 01/17/2009 8:06:35 AM PST by BellStar (Please God give us another Chance!)
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To: kellynla

A neat site for Spanish translation. You can shock a few of them by learning a little spanish. I DID.

http://translation2.paralink.com/


34 posted on 01/17/2009 8:08:38 AM PST by nbhunt
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To: kellynla

I’m in LA, too, and it sure doesn’t seem like there’s any fewer of them.


35 posted on 01/17/2009 8:12:58 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

“If California had Oklahoma-style laws instead of the welcoming ones they’d leave”

Yep you are sure right on that. And I think Texas companies are beginning to get message. There are a lot leaving Texas also. It’s just we have so many. Thank you WEBER for checking for illegal status. I know a lot of companies are now checking legal status. Now if we can just rid ourselves of the anchor babies. If we could change that one law, I do believe that would stop a lot of the influx.


36 posted on 01/17/2009 8:17:36 AM PST by nbhunt
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To: Uncle Miltie

Illegals are NOT going home. The study that has stated that has no hard statistics to substantiate their claim. The organization that did the study is a Latino immigration committee. They want the Americans to believe their country’s number one problem, illegal immigration, is going away. Oh contrer!!!

Why would illegals leave this country when they get free food stamps, health care, housing,welfare, adnd education? They aren’t going back to the hell hole country they came from where there is no work.


37 posted on 01/17/2009 11:03:29 AM PST by doc
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To: nbhunt

Isn’t Texas getting ready to write Oklahoma legislation, I know they’ve been talking about it? Also there are plans underway to deal with the anchor baby problem in some places like California, where they’re trying to get a ballot initiative going. I agree, something needs to be done about that.


38 posted on 01/17/2009 1:21:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
There's talk but that is all it is for right now. But finally it is getting toughter for illegals to work and live here is Texas. And that fence is slowing being built. Farmers Branch is trying to get it to where the owner of rentals has to check for illegal status and LULAC is now fighting it in courts trying to stop it. They also take your car if your stopped and no insurance or drivers lic. The larger companies are checking status so every little bit helps. Oklahoma started it and it was all over the news about the mass exodus from Ok. LOLOL
39 posted on 01/17/2009 2:06:27 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
But Texas and Oklahoma have been known to have that way out west mentality..."SHOOT FIRST THEN ASK QUESTIONS". But, what the hey, I live in Texas and that's fine with me.
40 posted on 01/17/2009 2:11:38 PM PST by nbhunt
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