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Bill would pull plug on reloading
The Standard Journal (Milton, PA) ^ | January 14, 2009 | Coni Marie Sheridan

Posted on 01/15/2009 6:56:58 PM PST by neverdem

Reloading ammunition in Pennsylvania may become a thing of the past if a bill currently in state legislature is passed.

According to the National Rifle Association-Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), “in the last year, so-called “encoded” or “serialized” ammunition bills have been introduced in 13 states — Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee and Washington.”

The bills, if passed, would require all bullets and cartridge cases to be marked with a code and registered to the owners in a computerized database, therefore, reloading would be outlawed.

“It (the bill) would eliminate reloading because there would be no way to serial it (the ammunition),” Rollin Anderson of Anderson’s Gun Shop in Watsontown said. “A lot of guys that handload (reload) are not happy about it.”

Anderson sells a lot of materials for ammunition reloading or handloading, which is when you reuse the cartridges to make your own ammunition.

“It would hurt a lot of industries,” he explained. There are so many components involved with reloading that would no longer be needed if the bill is passed, he said.

“Reloading is cost effective and is more accurate,” he added. “It (the bullet) holds a better pattern.”

Ammunition you already own could also be at risk as many of the bills state that people would be required to forfeit all personally owned “non-encoded” ammunition after a certain date. Therefore, reloading would actually be deemed illegal.

“I think it’s ridiculous!” commented State Rep. Merle Phillips. “They’d take away reloading which a lot of gun owners do to save money. It makes no sense.”

Along with encoding and registering ammunition, there would also be a five cent tax on each bullet sold, therefore, a minimum $2.50 increase per box would be enforced.

“People would still buy the loaded ammo, but it’s a lot more expensive (than reloading),” Anderson said.

According to the Ammunition Accountability Web site, the legislation was prompted by a “newly forming group” that includes “gun crime victims, industry representatives, law enforcement, public officials, public policy experts and more.”

However, Angus McClellan of the NRA-ILA Grassroots said, “this is a proposal by a commercial enterprise that has a patent on technology to imprint the codes. They are trying to create a demand for their product by making it mandatory. The owner of the company admitted on NRA News that his lobbying firm put up the whole thing.”

Sample legislation obtained from the Ammunition Accountability Web site states, “Bullet coding is a new and effective way for law enforcement to quickly identify persons on interest in gun crime investigations.”

State Rep. Merle Phillips disagrees.

“Criminals can still steal guns and ammunition,” he said.

Trooper Matt Burrows of the state police agrees with Phillips and said, “It (the encoding) would help, but I don’t know to what degree or how it would be implemented.”

According to McClellan, the NRA-ILA has been successfully fighting the passage of this legislation so far.

He said, “These bills are pending and will likely die at the end of the sessions, however, they will likely be reintroduced next session and sessions thereafter and will certainly pose significant threats.”

For more information on the Ammunition Accountability Act, visit www.ammunitionaccountability.com. You can also visit www.nraila.org for additional information and to find out what you can do to prevent this bill from being passed.

Coni Marie Sheridan:

570-742-9671

coni@standard-journal.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: ammocoding; banglist; nra; reloading
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To: neverdem

The lawmakers in Tennessee I don’t think want to end their political carrers. Nor do they want to tempt their districts to the time honored tradition of Running them out of town on a rail or worse. Even the Tennessee Dems aren’t this stupid or the RINO’s except whoever wrote the bill.


21 posted on 01/15/2009 7:13:37 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: Centurion2000

I wonder how these geniuses expect to get the real criminals to obey the law.


22 posted on 01/15/2009 7:15:23 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Vigilanteman

My thought exactly. They do think this will help us fight crime, right? They don’t just infringe on liberties for fun?


23 posted on 01/15/2009 7:17:38 PM PST by kc8ukw
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To: neverdem

WTF is wrong with these dumba%%es? handloaded ammo is practically never used in the comission of crime yet they want to ban it? The libs are always saying to justify their gun grabbing antics that they don’t want to go after legitimate sportsmen. I call BS. This law targets sportsmen pure and simple. This is a fair warning libs, back the f**k off or be prepared for consequences.


24 posted on 01/15/2009 7:18:49 PM PST by RC one
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To: GeronL

“answers that question. home made bullets would also be outlawed i guess”

Outlawed by criminals — to hell w/ them.


25 posted on 01/15/2009 7:20:10 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: neverdem

Skirred me chitless - from the title I thought it was about web browsers!


26 posted on 01/15/2009 7:21:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (After all is said and done I'm goodier goodier than you!)
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To: Kennesaw

Amen.


27 posted on 01/15/2009 7:22:08 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

It is time that we begin a little civil demonstration of our own and just not obey these laws.


28 posted on 01/15/2009 7:23:21 PM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: RC one

I agree with you. And the logistical nightmare of tracking trillions of bullets in a data base is absurd.

Who is going to pay for all this accounting?


29 posted on 01/15/2009 7:23:41 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could be Farts)
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To: Constitutional Patriot

The liberals are going to start to overreach in their hubris on this issue and many others. They can’t help it.

We need to be there when they do and be prepared to take advantage of the situation to use it against them in every way possible.


30 posted on 01/15/2009 7:24:18 PM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: Vigilanteman

They don’t. 7.62x39 ammo is imported and even a if there was a ban on that ammo it would still get it the hands of criminals. Nations like Russia would absolutely love a ban because they could raise prices on their arms exports which end up in Mexico or Central American countries.


31 posted on 01/15/2009 7:24:30 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Vigilanteman

They are not worried about real criminals. These controls are meant for US


32 posted on 01/15/2009 7:25:08 PM PST by GeronL (A woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood)
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To: TheConservativeParty

I am a Patriotic American.

I will not be pacified, subjected, or re-educated.

I will fight to defend our Freedom and the Constitution.

Some of us will be here when this conflict is over!

33 posted on 01/15/2009 7:30:18 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Red in Blue PA; Calpernia
We really need to look at imposing a 5 cent tax on each paragraph written. See how that idea flies.

Calpernia is already being frugal.

;-)

34 posted on 01/15/2009 7:31:03 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: neverdem

I realize that I am not going to live forever.

I will go out for a cause greater than me.

I owe that to all that have gone before me with their oath to defend the constitution.


35 posted on 01/15/2009 7:32:57 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: neverdem

Pump a stock and dump it?

One company claims they can do it

No one else

I am thinking BS

Hit our guts

get their name out there.

I hope I am right


36 posted on 01/15/2009 7:40:48 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands..)
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To: Calpernia
“America's 85 million gun owners...”

How many votes did Obama get? (Rhetorical question)

37 posted on 01/15/2009 7:42:52 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: neverdem
My A$$! My kid shoots trap for fun and competition. Do you know how much it is to keep him armed and practice tickets? If this takes hold; there goes Olympic shooting.
38 posted on 01/15/2009 7:45:40 PM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: neverdem

Racism, legal activism etc... all nonos.

Let a bunch of legal activist retards try pull that. No one pulls rank and uniform on me for activism. Suicidal activist need to be reined in and “whispered” out powerfuly without any reward of encouragement whatsoever.

It’s like agreeing to be raped or asking Daniel to bow to a King. It’s embarassing and a shame signature of oath to nonsense we do not have to adopt, without any disrespect whatsoever meant.


39 posted on 01/15/2009 7:51:48 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: Texas Fossil

Well done! That is beautiful.


40 posted on 01/15/2009 7:56:14 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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