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To: bronxboy

Actually, I don’t think much about the Tundra one way or the other. Go through all my posts - I don’t ever recommend it to anyone.

As for “have to build cars in Germany to sell in Germany,” then why is it that one of the best selling cars in Germany is built in Belgium (Audi A3), another one is made in Slovakia and Spain (VW Polo) and another is made in Spain (Opel Corsa)?

Of the top ten cars sold in Germany, half of them aren’t even made in Germany!!!!

As for China.... pray explain, then, why the second-best selling Buick in China isn’t made in China or the US, but in Australia?

Someone here doesn’t know jack about the car industry. And it’s not me.


109 posted on 01/13/2009 5:33:57 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Audi and Opel have plants in Germany. In fact Opel is about to get a bailout from Germany. GM has plants in China...you get the picture. All the companies you describe manufacture in Germany and sell in Germany even cars made outside of Germany...Same with GM in China...we have plants in China. Thus we can sell in China-even some cars not made in China.

Now let’s look at Korea...Korea has been kicked out of China...they can’t sell Korean cars in China-no plants. China felt they were a threat-bye bye Korea. You see I do know jack about the auto industry. Although, this comment on my part was rude...you made a reasonable post. I should have responded more politely-mea culpa, mea culpa.

I apologize if I was unpleasant, but I am sick and tired of hearing the big three bashed relentlessly by some conservatives...I have worked in the Auto industry 25 years and I get impatient when I post something that is completely true and people refuse to believe it because they hate American cars so much.

Here’s the truth about Toyota quality...by the way the tailgate falls off because the Toyota morons don’t understand how people use trucks-they stand on the tailgates...they didn’t reinforce them and used cheap materials...kind of the usual thing for Toyota these days. They are living off their past good reputation because the cars are really crappy now especially the Tundra. If you google Tundra quality, you will see other issues in the last couple of years.

The Tundra, really it sucks. Don’t buy it. I’m not just saying this...because I work for GM either.
http://www.tundratalk.net/forums/toyota-tundra-news/32830-toyota-tundra-hit-two-more-quality-issues.html

Last Tuesday the Toyota Tundra was kicked off the Consumer Reports “Recommended” list for achieving below average predicted reliability scores from its own owners. It appears, however, that the Tundra’s week is about to get worse. With the help of Mike Levine from Pickuptruck.com, we’re following two separate stories about Tundra quality issues that have surfaced recently. The first involves the Tundra’s transmission, with at least ten owners at TundraSolutions.com reporting that their trannies experience rough shifts that make the truck feel like it’s riding over rumble strips. The ‘rumble strip’ transmission issue has been acknowledged by Toyota North America and traced back to the torque converter not disengaging properly. Owners report having their transmissions replaced with new or remanufactured ones, though Toyota told Levine that going forward the automaker would only replace the torque converter itself. Toyota did not say, however, how many trucks are affected, just that the transmission problem is not a safety or design issue.

The second quality issue sprouted up this past weekend, also on TundraSolutions.com, and involves tailgates that have been failing or, in some cases, even falling off. The most common experience seems to be the tailgate itself forming cracks and the metal buckling when under load. One owner reported that his tailgate failed when loading an ATV into the bed for the very first time. The tailgate being such an integral part of owning a truck, members of TS have begun an online petition, which they hope will force Toyota to recognize the issue and do something about it. The petition has attracted 125 signatures so far. Levine from Pickuptruck.com has also asked Toyota about these potentially failing tailgates and is waiting for a response.

Yes, the Toyota Tundra has had a very rough week, but it’s no more difficult than the time Tundra owners spend with trucks that don’t work as advertised.


111 posted on 01/13/2009 5:58:02 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Spktyr

By the way, we laughed ourselves silly about the Tundra tailgate-truly a rookie mistake. We had the thing in to look at it...and the stupid thing broke in a matter of days during our testing. Word is that American engineers working for Toyota tried to tell Toyota this would be a problem, but American engineers are viewed as stupid Americans and not listened to much.


112 posted on 01/13/2009 6:02:43 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Spktyr

Here’s the other story about Honda...not everyone likes their cars...these are owners.

http://seductiveautosports.tripod.com/honda%20haters.htm


113 posted on 01/13/2009 6:20:59 PM PST by bronxboy
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